Urgent. Don’t make this common bipolar supporter mistake

Hi,

How are you?

Yesterday I sent out an email
and then I was planning on going on
out but I was way too tired so
I just watched a movie on TV.

You know what is kind of strange.
I must have 200 channels and there
is never anything on. Ever notice
that?

Now there are channels like History
Channel 1, 2, 3, etc. and there
still isn’t anything ever on
really.

I have been working hard these
days on a number of projects.

Many people think that I work way too
hard.

Actually, I have friends that make me
look super lazy.

My one friend John, I wrote him
the other day and asked how he was doing:

From: John
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 3:14 PM
To: David Oliver (The Leverage Team, LLC.)
Subject: RE:

Been working a lot – sometimes til 3 or 4 am.

Other than that nothing.

John

=============

He’s a super hard worker. He has focus. I have
lots of friends like this and they get a whole
lot done and fast. John’s goal is to
make I think $1 million dollar this
year and then help his parents out who
are disabled. He was previously in
d.ebt of more than $250,000 and he
paid it off this past year.

Anyway, I have to make new systems to
handle all these projects
and the growth that I have going
on. It’s hard work but fun work.

I was actually talking to
someone new who works with
me. This person has bipolar
disorder and some other
things I can’t remember right
now.

Actually as a side note, the person
was misdiagnosed for a long time
with schizophrenia and now has
the right diagnosis.

I was telling him about my situation
I am having with expanding everything.

I told him how Andrea, who works
for me has so many projects to do
and I worry that there are just
too many for her.

Anyway I told him might plight
and he said, “okay, I am going
to be your marketing therapist
for today.”

The amazing thing is, I have
been thinking of a solution
to this problem (which it’s
hard to write about but it’s
just a big problem with the number
of websites, keeping track of
them, expanding them, etc.)
for a long time. A long time.

Within 5 minutes of me telling
him. He thought about it
and had a solution that I am
99.9% sure will work.

I was really amazed how simple
the solution was.

I had told other so called
experts I hired from consulting
companies and all they did
is want more and more and more
money to “figure it out.” He
figured it out within
5 minutes.

I must say, there is differently
something about people who have
disorders such as bipolar disorder–
there is no question in my mind
they are smarter, more creative
and here’s a big one, able to
take the complex and make it simple.

It’s one of the reasons that I
have been able to grow this so
fast and so big. It’s because
the systems have been setup
by people who are way smarter
than me.

After I spoke to him,
I actually got a call from
my mom.

My mom shows signs of POSSIBLY
going into a bipolar episode.

It’s possible. I am not 100%
sure.

Here’s what happen. Okay, if
you follow my story, you know
my mom doesn’t do well in November
and December. Last year, she didn’t
do well in December or the year
before or the year before.

This December, she did great. No
problems.

So I was super happy about the
entire thing. Finally a good
December.

But remember, my mom does well
when there are tragedies or
big problems.

What I am saying is, if there
is a big problem, crisis, my
mom will handle it well. She
has NEVER gone into a bipolar
episode during a period like
this.

It’s always AFTER.

Well, you might remember or
maybe you didn’t know. My uncle
had a heart attack. He was
in the hospital. My aunt
worried about my mom and the
stress.

My mom handled it perfectly
fine.

BUT, now my uncle is fine and
recently I saw a few things
that indicate a possible episode
occurring. I almost missed
it however.

Let me try to explain my thinking
process so it helps you.

November/December normally bad
BUT, uncle has heart attack, mom
does well in November/December. So
the heart attack could have offset
the normally bad November/December
period

After the problem or crisis, the
episode would happen historically.
BUT, my mom has a great system now
to prevent this.

Here are the signs I saw:

-Random phone calls to me
in the day that didn’t fit a pattern.

-Phone calls made about NON urgent
things but my mom felt they were URGENT.

-My mom talking really fast and loud during
these days. However to be fair, she was on a
cell phone so that could have made her sound louder.

-My mom called me late one night
after 9:00pm. She normally is in bed
this late.

-My mom said to me how her
doctor and therapist told her
she has never been so stable
ever.

NOTE-I don’t believe this. This is
the bipolar talking. What are the
chances that her doctor AND therapist
said the same thing during the
same time period. Also, why would
they say that? She isn’t any more
stable than she was 6 months ago,
14 months ago, etc.

In my opinion, and I know I will get
people who think I am crazy but, in
my mind, this is a setup by my mom’s
bipolar to get me to think she is stable
so it can hope I let my guard down. Sounds
crazy but I am just telling you how
I think. You know what? When I write this
stuff, I know people will think I am
insane but that’s okay I tell you these
things so you know how I think and how
you could think in your own situation.

If I think she is stable then I won’t
check up and then it’s easier to create
more problems right? If you were bipolar
disorder, wouldn’t you do that if you
wanted create some problems???

-My mom had a problem with her computer.
She called me late to tell me. She knows
this is a no, no. I told her she had
to fix her own problems or at least really
try. The fact she called after 8:30 on
a Friday night is not a good sign.

-When I called back I was talking to
my dad warning him of what I was seeing.
Of course, like normal I might as well have
been telling you what was going on because
my dad simply goes into hard core denial, “I
don’t want to believe what he is saying” mode.

My mom took the phone out of my dads hand
and said, “we think we know what’s wrong with
the computer and said, ‘I gotta go..bye’ and
hung up on me. This is a bad sign. I can’t
explain via email her tone. But I know for
sure it was her bipolar talking. Because my
mom’s tone changes when she is going
into a potential mini episode.

The reason why she took the phone is because
I believe her bipolar was starting to worry
that I would convince my dad to watch out
and monitor her closely. It didn’t want
this to happen so it had to go so to speak.

-Also, my dad wound up getting mad at me
on the phone. EVERY SINGLE time my mom
is going into a mini episode, my dad gets
mad at me. Why? Who knows. It’s easier
for him to get mad at me than do anything.
That’s the reality. It does amaze me how
he operates.

So this is what I have seen so far. If
I were to guess. My mom is slightly manic.

It will be interesting to see what happens:

Will she contact her doctor/therapist and
get her treatment?

Will my dad step in?

Will she go into a mini bipolar episode?

In my head I am not worried? Why because
I have systems in place.

In my course/systems below, I talk about
how to handle all of this stuff.

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Visit:
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There’s no question it can be a pain in
the butt but it’s doable. You can get
all the same systems and tools that I have.
This is what I use myself.

I actually filled out my own worksheets
to compare to figure out if I thought
my mom was going into an episode.

Someone that I mentioned this to who lives
by me asked if I was worried. I said no. I
can’t think of one thing that could happen
that I don’t have a plan for.

UNLESS her bipolar comes up with something
radically new. If so, I still will win
anyway so I am not worried.

If I had to guess. My mom will get more
manic. Then I will mention it to her.
She will get mad. Then she will call
her doctor/therapist and get her
treatment altered.

My mom does NOT ever want to have a
huge out of control episode again. I know
this for sure.

This is my guess today. But things change
fast. I will keep you posted.

The worst thing you can do if you have
bipolar disorder or are a bipolar supporter
is deny there is a problem. Pretend everything
is okay or attack the messenger like my
dad does.

The entire reason he had so many problems
over the years is because he took no action.

The amazing thing is this. Back in the day,
it was my brother who was the one who
took her to the hospital most of the time.
He didn’t even know what he was doing
really. He didn’t have a book but he
knew she wasn’t well and the hospital
made people better and he would take
her there.

I remember one time my dad asked her
to go she screamed no. My brother said
she was going and he got the car
ready. She never questioned him. I think
her bipolar was scared of him. My brother
at the time was 6 foot 3, 315 pounds at
his peak when he played football.

He is bigger than me, I was only 6 foot 1
282 pounds at my peak 🙂

Anyway, back to my dad. Soon I am going to
seriously ask him why he does this. If I
could figure it out, I could help lots of people.
I seriously have no idea whatsoever why he thinks
the way he does about bipolar.

It’s almost something in his personality that
takes no action. It’s the same reason my amazing
fat burning system sits on his shelf unopened,
unread. I just can’t understand it because I am
not like this.

NO one in the family can figure out my dad
way, including my mom. She herself has thanked
me many times for standing up to her bipolar
and not letting it get out of control.

In the best case scenario, I am totally
100% wrong and my mom is totally fine.
I sure hope so. But, I have to be vigilant.

Hey, I have to run. Catch you tomorrow.

Your Friend,

Dave

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  1. Dave,
    I know exactly what you are talking about with your mom. My mom had “bad times” of year too. But, my mom used to go manic at the most awful times! When my dad was dying of cancer, my mom was manic. NOW, that was a difficult one! I remember my sister and I trying to take care of him and her both. Her major concern was what to eat and how everything affected her and not Dad so much! My dad used to give us money because he knew we weren’t able to work or do much extra stuff because we were taking the time to take care of him. He told my mom to get the check book one time. My mom yelled at him. She said, “If you keep giving them money, I’ll have nothing when you die”. That wasn’t the case, but it showed the bipolar attitude. She didn’t look at how we were doing everything for the both of them, taking time away from our families and normal responsibilities and would continue to do it for her. It’s hard to separate the bipolar out sometimes. I think my mom also was quite selfish without the bipolar at times too, but she was a good mom when she could be. She was also a strong person and had been through alot in her lifetime.

    Good luck with your mom. Maybe I’ll go visit the cemetary today. I go out there because it’s at a park and on a river and it’s woods and meadow… and it’s so peaceful out there. I sometimes get a great sense of peace from visiting. Don’t worry, they don’t “talk to me” or anything… it’s just I feel closer to them and it’s such a beautiful place.

  2. Hello, I can understand your frustration with your mom and dad as nothing is easy.

    For me the BD sneaks up and all of a sudden it will be choking me. Especially when I think I am stable. The stress of having a broken, or just a problem with a computer is enough to set anyone off let alone someone with BiPolar.

    If she is staying up past her normal sleep schedule then she should have on hand some potent sleeping pills preferably with muscle relaxers to help her get the rest she needs before the tension of the mania gets the better of her. It works for me and if I ignore the mania I only get worse and worse and require further psychiatric treatment to get back on track again.

    Just a suggestion that works to help me get out of mini episodes because sometimes just sleep is the necessary remedy.

  3. Suzanne this is for you and anyone who loves a good chuckle. I am BIPOLAR and am not offended so I pray no one else is:

    Mental Illness Humor

    Heard on the Internet:

    Ralph and Edna were patients in a mental hospital.

    One day while they were walking past the hospital swimming pool, Ralph suddenly jumped into the deep end. He sank to the bottom of the pool and stayed there. Edna promptly jumped in to save him. She swam to the bottom and pulled Ralph out.

    When doctors became aware of Edna’s heroic act they immediately ordered her to be discharged from the hospital, as she was clearly mentally stable.

    When the Head Nurse went to tell Edna the news she said, “Edna, I have good news and bad news. The good news is you’re being discharged; since you were able to rationally respond to a crisis by jumping in and saving the life of another patient, I have concluded that your act displays sound mindedness. The bad news is, Ralph, the patient you saved, hung himself with his bathrobe belt in the bathroom. I am so sorry, but he’s dead.”

    Edna replied “He didn’t hang himself. I put him there to dry. How soon can I go home?”

    You all weren’t expecting that ending were you? …poor Ralph!

  4. I want to see men,not like me at all. i do not tell them i am bipolar, should I/ I just want to date them. Should a bipolar person date a bipolar person? I started taking lithium again.I am in denile with this.I do not take medications well,I do not fell sick.I could fool you for awhile,but I then go in a different mood.I want to fell and be a woman . So, is it wrong in what i am doing?I have an over whelming need to be loved. I think its a lot to do with the bipolar thing- but I don`t care. How do I get control of this? peggy

  5. Peggy,

    I wouldn’t go around telling people you have Bipolar either especially on a first date or just the getting to know each other thing until you feel secure in telling this stranger your secret.

    However, you must always remember that honesty is the best policy. If you want someone to love you for who you are then you have to be honest with who you are. If you accept it, it is easier for others to accept it as well.

    You are not a bad person because you have BiPolar you are more than likely very smart, beautiful, and so much more. Focus on the good and do whatever it takes to stay healthy and on top of your illness.

    I pray you will have great success in finding that one true love that loves you for you and can always look past the illness you are burdened with.

  6. First let me say THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU for your e-mails, I look forward to them. Let me tell you a bit about my story. My husband is bipolar, though not formally diagnosed as of yet but Im working on that right now. His present counselor is of absolutly no use. He is also an alcoholic/drug user/sex addict/susidial. It gets so frustrating to me that no one is listning to me, not even my family. Now let me tell you I LOVE this man with all my heart and its just killing me to see him going through this. He had me kicked out of the house 3 months ago, but would continue to “harass” me via e-mail, text message, Ims, I had him arrested one night as he is on probations for domestic assult, and is not supposed to be drinking and was, how do I know that as im not living with him you may ask, well I know the “cycle” he goes through and this happened to be one of them. Live with this man has been sheer and utter hell on me, I lost 40lb in 3 months. I have also lived with verbal/mental/emotional abuse of the worst kind. I am now writing for some local newspapers, and Magizines in my area on Domestic/spousal abuse, and hope to put this all into a book to be published. I am also toying around with the idea of starting a support group in my area for supporters of partners/family with Bipolar, as well as individuals with bipolar, as I have found NOTHING in this area even remotly designed for support for this. I want to be able to be a resource for people to come to with questions and concernes and help with this. Any suggestions/ feedback on this would be a wonderful thing, as I have no one here to talk to about any of this. I have read everything I can get my hands on about this disorder and would love to be of help in any way I can for others that find themselves in my paticular situation. Also my mother has this as well. Which Im finding out very quickly through my reading, and she is also an alcoholic.
    Again
    THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU
    Mary Ellen

  7. Dave, Iread todays blog and a know how you feel. I have two handicapped ssons who are bipolar besides being bipolar myself. In addition to being bipolar I am also a recovering alcholoic and addict. Iget very discontent at times and then I have to back up ans regroup. Thank for your newsleters they are helping me out. Elrita Mcavoy

  8. Hi Dave:

    Just wanted to say thanks again and I am glad you took a little time for yourself even though there is never anything on TV. Both my husband and daughter have bi-polar and they have “bad times of the year” at the same times of the year. My husband has removed himself from our home, for the time being, because my daughter is here (not his daughter). I know it is the bi-polar but I am getting very worn down with it. I am in the final stage of emphysema and I have to admit I don’t have the energy to fight the bi-polar like I used to. Your emails are very helpful to me and I really appreciate them. I don’t know where you work out of but I wish you could hire my daughter to work for you. There are very few employers that will deal with the moods of a bi-polar and so they do not hold a job for very long. So I have no idea what will happen to my daughter after I pass on. Her father is undiagnosed and non-medicated bi-polar and possibly schizophrenic. He is no good to her now so I know when I leave this world she will have a very difficult time. I can only pray for her and use the information you provide to help her. When she is having “mental pain” she does things to cause herself physical pain, usually involves burning, or branding, her skin. We are very close, as she is my only child, and I am very much afraid for her after I no longer exist. This blog you have set up is very therapeutic for me and the emails are so very appreciated that I do not have words to describe how hopeful they make me feel. Thanks again and keep up the good work because i know there are others like me out there that need this info and support. HelenM

  9. SORRY about that 🙁 David

    I found the articles very informative and beneficial to different ways of coping with emotional and mental health. You provide a great platform and ways to help others supporting BP’s. I imagine it is only to protect you that you have to request it.

    I meant no harm 🙂 PROMISE not to put up a link again.

  10. Just wanted to share this information I found on the internet: I truly believe that
    “LAUGHTER IS THE BEST MEDICINE”

    Mental Health Benefits of Laughter

    Humor enhances our ability to affiliate or connect with others.

    Humor helps us replace distressing emotions with pleasurable feelings. You cannot feel angry, depressed, anxious, guilty, or resentful and experience humor at the same time.

    Lacking humor will cause one’s thought processes to stagnate leading to increased distress.

    Humor changes behavior – when we experience humor we talk more, make more eye contact with others, touch others, etc.

    Humor increases energy, and with increased energy we may perform activities that we might otherwise avoid.

    Finally, humor is good for mental health because it makes us feel good!

    Keep laughing life is way too short. 😎

  11. hello all im in love with a woman who has bipolar 2 and never had to deal with anything like this i have been with her on and off for 3 years and yes dave ike youre mom her december and janury are bad times for her it is defeintly manic last year she got on a plane and went to vegas to be with a man she meet on the internet this year i came home to her gone in her car i am paying for she left the last weeek of noveber and is in the screeming and yelling no she refuses to anwser her phone in the past i have taken her baack evertime cause when she come down i have always been there dave she cheated on me once and ammitted it i am in love with her so much im ready to take my on life that is insane thought but i am doing the best i can at not doing this am i the one going crazey here or is there any way i can get a normal life out of her she takes the med then starts to level out and quits i cant make her do it .please help me im in in kansas city ks have no freinds and feeling very alone im scared for my saftey now i have worried my self to death and not eaten in 5 days i need soome support someone please help blkchevy85@yahoo.com i no im not crazey but i feel this is taken me there!!!!!!

  12. Dave, I find it very interesteding (and accurate) how you refer to your mom’s bipolar like it has it’s own identity. The disease really does take on it’s own characteristics, feeding off it’s host like a parasite.

    I wonder if your father deals (or does not) the way he does out of fear. Maybe he’s scared to deal with her the way you do because he feels his role as husband should be different than yours as son? Fear is such a strong motivator and also inhibator.

    I’ve enjoyed your emails so far – my father was diagnosed bipolar about 10 years ago or so and has recently just admitted for the first time EVER that he’s bipolar. He even managed to fool his current wife of 5 years until he had a pretty big episode about a month ago.

  13. David,I know what you are talking about. I had many of those situations ,and is like you had said ” is like to step eggs”.One time,in a doctor’s consult, my loved ones said that I was very nervous, but the doctor that news me, said that it wasn’t true.The funny or sad about bipolar is that it seems always creating problems and accused other person to do that.So it is difficult do know the true.Few days, when I asked to my loved one if he is taking the medicine that the doctor had given ,she told me that she don’t were crasy, and that many people in her service did like her and that nothing happened.So all will be very natural…That thing of wanting ,to do resemble to other persons ,that I doesn’t was acting very well ,has happened in many times.Once , in a party ,she said that I had abandoned her during the time she was pregnant.The problem is that I coudn’t arrive close to her without there was a fight.It was dangerous she to lose the child.She went to say, at the party,for my relatives, that didn’t know anything about the case, that I had abandoned her…I can imagine the “tone”that his mother spoke in the telephone, because I dare this tone all every day.For me, those mini episodes are being very close one of other.My daughter’s husband, that don’t know nothing about the diagnostic, said that I make my daughter to lose her self steem ,because the different mood that I treat my other daughter.
    Here in my country the system of health is different of USA ,and my daughter has a health insurance.But, to be hospitalized, would be the worse thing that it could happen,because the prejudice in her service. Lilian P.

  14. I tried writing yesterday but my blog was lost. One thing I have found out being Bipolar 1 is that everyone with this problem is “very” different at least when they are manic,, normal, or even depressed. I have been blessed with good Dr”s that put me back together 18 years ago and I funtion as a fine artist mainly doing comission portrait work.My daughter is another story and a long one at that. She has been in several programs but my X husband takes her out. I suppose I have no control and should leve it alone.I am pretty sure she is schizoaffective as she talks to herself a lot. My doc that has his PHD that I still talk to when I can not handle a problem anyumore says she needs to be somewhere where she can be monitered. As I said i ahve no control and end up being cussed out by my X who says she is happy so just leave her alone. Oh well he is a lot older than me and I will have to probably have this on my hands somedaay but I feel I should be making plans now…..best I paint now

  15. I have read your e-mails for the longest time,and have found so much helpful information.When my son had the internet I would send him the information from Dave.My son had suffered with bi-polar disorder since he was a young boy.It was my life goal to find the best hospital,Dr’s for him.I only wanted him to be happy with hisself.He spent a lot of time in,and out of the hospitals when he was young.He was taking the correct medications to help him.Last March 19th.he overdosed,and they life flighted him to a major hospital.I was told he wouldn’t live.He did,and was seeing a therapist,and Dr’s afterwards.In Nov.2007 my husband became ill.He died 5 weeks later with cancer.My son was doing well I thought,but I guess he was being strong for me.He moved in with me,and he seemed so happy.He received a nice disibility check monthly,and he wanted to order clothes on e-bay.This was ok,since he liked nice clothes,and the money wasn’t for drugs,or something harmful to him.I was his payee so I had accountability to social security for what was spent.He was so happy when he received his Colts jersey.On Sat.I spent the day at my daughter’s house to take care of the grandkids.I called my son a couple of times that day,and my daughter spoke with him on the phone.He seemed to be fine while talking.I arrived home about 4:45 p.m.I walked to MY bedroom where I found my son on the floor.I knew he was gone,but I was in shock.I called 911,and tried to revive him.They worked on my son for over a hour,but he had gone without oxygen fot to long.So here I remain to ask if I did every thing I could? Dave did I miss perhaps he was going thru a mania time? I read all your e-mails.I thought I was on top of things.If only I could know what he was thinking.My son passed on Jan.5,2008,and my husband on Dec.6,2007.I’m raising a 7 year old granddaughter who witnesed finding my son.My goal in life is to find the help needed for all who suffer with this disorder.

  16. This is for fineartist: Please do not give up on your daughter. I don’t know your situation, but if you have to go get a court order to get help for your daughter then you must do so. I hate to think of the shape my 21 y/o daughter would be in today if she had gone without a very good psychiatrist counseling her since she was about 12. She is still disabled by her bi-polar, but she has a better understanding of why she feels like she does. Her problem is not being able to afford the medication without any medical assistance. But I am still fighting the battle for SSI until she can get herself stable enough to hold a job and maintain a healthy lifestyle. So I beg you to not give up and take charge of her destiny because if you don’t step up to the plate and take charge and her father will not allow her to be helped her future looks very bleak. So please take it to the court system, if need be. Your daughter is the primary concern and I don’t like mixing the law in with family matters but sometimes it is a necessary evil. Please let me know how you are doing. Email me at angryaswipe@yahoo.com if this is allowed and let me know how you and your daughter are doing, ok?

    With love and concern:
    Helen

  17. Interesting. Just last night my daughter said, “Ya know, for the first time in a very long time, I feel happy. And I shouldn’t. NOTHING is going ok in my life… i have this horrible head cold, two black eyes (long story), no friends (see two black eyes), i’m jonesing for drugs (see long story, two black eyes), i’m broke, homeless; nothing is working in my life, but i’m happy.”

    Ok, I know this one. There’s a lot of contentment in nothing working in your life, dear… there’s nothing left to go wrong. The one good thing about rock bottom is you know there’s no more surprises that can beat you down.

    Sigh. I do love her being content, even happy.. but geez, I don’t need that much catastrophe in MY life and of course as her mom i invited her into my tiny one bedroom apartment almost a year ago. She has a strong work ethic, I really thought she’d be back on her feet, working, in her own apartment. I had NO idea how devestating bipolar disease is. Intersting she read the Brittany Spears article in PEOPLE this week and said, other than the celebraty and kids.. that’s me. My heart so goes out to Brittany’s parents… there’s so much more available for children… adult children… you not only can’t step in, they really have to “get it” at a core level that they have a chronic, potentially debilitating disease.

    Ok, the whole black eye thing really has me down… but maybe, just maybe this is the turn around. Color me doubtful, she’s followed up on not much that the hospital ER made available to her.

    Where’s the chocolate anyhow

  18. Dave, your father get’s mad at you because, he can’t help your mother. he feels helpless to do anything. I deal with bypolar and my husband gets mad when I have a espoide and end uo in the hospital, november,december,january,these are my months. but lately i’m having eposides all the time. I’m tired of being called,crazy physco or whatever, it’s because they feel helpless. the illness is two powerful and he’s lost at what to do. Don’t get mad at your father,he’s living in a unstable land. Where he loves her but he can’t fix this one.

  19. Dave,
    So happy you have a system to deal with episodes. I will probably never be able to afford your system because my bipolar husband will not go to counseling. He went in the past but because I am the only one working (he had major back and foot injury and takes care of our 2 year old). He takes some medication-some of the time but I am never quite sure what and when. He still has some of the behaviours but I depend on him so much that I cannot monitor EVERY pill he takes. It is impossible-I have tried. Any way, I am happy for you and keep up the good work. At least you provide the free email for me and that does help me keep focused on the issues. Thank you again.
    Virginia

  20. Dave,

    I like the way you seperate the bipolar from the person. It makes SO much sense to me! It has a mind and will of its own. It’s very clever and conniving. Like you’ve said that bipolar “likes” your Dad, well, I think my husband’s bipolar really likes me because I’m sweet, easy going, and gullible. It ALWAYS seems to get past me–if you know what I mean.

  21. Hi David

    I am just dropping you a line, to say how very helpful and informative you e-mail’s have been.

    In 2000, My cousin committed suicide in the Republic of Ireland. She had bi-polar. Three month’s later, my other cousin (on my mum’s side of the family) also committed suicide. Although, you can never be certain, I do believe that if my Cousin had access to your information, the outcome might have been very different! I too suffer with a depressive illness and for the last 8 years have been on Lithium and a whole cocktail of medication.

    Last october, my mum was diagnosed with alzheimer’s disease and for several month’s had being going to bed earlier and earlier (sometimes as early as 5pm). At the time, I asked her if she could be depressed and she denied this. However, after reading your e-mail’s, I was prompted to ask her again this time she said she thought she was.Consequently, we have an appointment to see her psychiatrist later today and I will suggest this to her and hopefully, if she aggree’s with me, she will probably prescribe her some antidepressant’s and I have no doubt that if she does, my mum’s quality of life will almost certainly improve.

    Can i just say, that whenever you feel despondent and doubt yourself, please remember what you have done for my mum and myself and no doubt countless other people.

    May I therefore take this opportunity to wish you and you family a very happy and healthy New Year!

    Marian

  22. Yeah, Dave – I WOULD be worried. Be very, VERY worried. I recognize the symptoms in your Mom as they have happened to me. The bipolar IS afraid of you, because you recognize IT. Your Mom grabbing the phone and hanging up on you, is typical hypomanic behavior. But – I am sure you DO have your systems in place, and you can handle whatever the bipolar can throw at you!!

    I can often go through crises just fine; it’s AFTER the crisis is over that I “break.” Just like your Mom. I don’t know why/how this happens; it must be a coping mechanism that happens that “gets us through” the hard times, and then we just “crash.” I use my “support unit” to monitor my mood AFTER a crisis. This usually includes my boyfriend and two of my girlfriends. It also includes, more importantly, my psychiatrist and my therapist. As I only see my therapist every other week, a sudden “turn for the worse” is harder to manage if she can’t catch it.

    I wish you a lot of luck in dealing with your Mom’s perceived hypomania. Be a Boy Scout – Be Prepared. I know you will.

    BIG HUGS to all bipolar survivors and those who love them. I pray for you daily.

  23. To DONNAM: Please accept my deepest condolences on the unexpected and unnecessary death of your son. It sounds as if he was quite “normal” when you spoke to him that day; but suicidal people are often “upbeat” right before they “do the deed.” There was absolutely NOTHING you could have done to prevent this. He had it in his mind to kill himself, and nothing on God’s green Earth could have stopped him. Don’t blame yourself or feel guilty – it was his illness that caused this. He was NOT himself when he died.

    Rest assured – he is in the Arms of the Lord, where no pain can reach him.

  24. To BPSERENITY: THANKS so much for the chuckle!! Of course, humor IS important, especially for the mentally-challenged! If we can’t laugh at ourselves, who else are we going to laugh at??!!

    Let’s hear it for the “jolly” people of the world! Send us some more “funnies!” to make our day!!

  25. Dave,
    I think diferent of you about the behavior of your mother.Appears that she wants take your attention ,but don’t tell you clearly.So she say that all is well.But she knows that you know her to much, and will discover the truth, and take the necessary providence.She is felling that is uppseting you,like in the case of the computer.She don’t want that.So, she said that all is allright.Lilian p.

  26. You’re absolutely right to be on the alert about your mum. My wife is bipolar and she does the same sort of thing. Seems to deal with a crisis quietly, then when it’s over, sets off on that ramp that leads to hospital. the family see the signs, but the doctors are much slower to agree and tell her she’s completely fine! Some things you’d expect to set her off, don’t. Others you wouldn’t think would worry her, can be the ‘prompt’. So you have to be continuously on the look out. I hope you catch it in time, before it becomes serious.
    Richard

  27. Dave,
    Iam a mom with Bi-Polar.I was diagnoised in 1982. My symptoms presented during puberty.I ran away from home several times with my
    boyfriend who was much older than me.
    I married him at 18.We were married for 11 years,which I was abused for
    the entire marriage.
    We had Three sons.Then in 1980 my
    younger brother was killed in an accident.(he was 15).I decided then
    that I wasn’t gonna take the abuse any longer. My
    docs have told me that the stress
    of the abuse triggered my first manic episode.I began self medicating and running around.
    I knew I was wrong,but a force
    inside of me was stronger.My
    drinking became so bad .I felt
    myself slipping into a dark hole.
    When I woke up on the beach one morning with the waves hiting my face,I decided to get some help.I
    signed myself into a woman’s rehab program.After 2 days of counseling
    It was determined that I had another problem,not alcohol.I was
    admitted to a facility for mental
    rehab.I was there for 3 months.
    There, I was put on meds.Lithium
    of course was the DOC then.
    I was leveled out and released.
    The Lithium made me feel so yuk.
    I was on it for about 2 years.One day I just threw all my meds down the toliet.Even on my meds I had trouble with people,family,authority.My mom
    took care of my children during
    all of this.There were times that I would realize I was banging my
    head against the wall.I mean,It was like I couldn’t handle things,paying bills,grocery shopping,crowds,homework.I know that my children’s lifes were as bad as mine.They are grown now and
    have children of their own.
    I have talked with each of them of those days and begged their forgiveness,which iam so happy to say they have.
    I then got an idea I wanted to be a nurse.I got my lvn in 1989.The boys were teens ,and i was single,and it was very hard.I did it though.I told noone at school about my Bi-Polar.I wanted to be normal,like them.I graduated,and went to work as a nurse.That lasted about 2 years.I got manic and started going to work drunk.I quit
    and lost myself in a world of
    craziness.i was hospitlazed in 1993 or 1994.I can’t remember.I was on the psych ward for 30 days.Again diagnoised Bi-Polar.AGain put on
    Lithium.The events during that time are kind a dim.I was on my meds for about a year.Again I flushed them down the toliet.
    During the nursing program I became friends with one of the other students.We kept in contact over the years.She talked me into going ack to a doc and getting on meds again.Now it was 1998 and new meds were around.I was put on 2 different mood stablelizers and anti anziety meds.I was pretty good on these.Inbetween all of this i got married in 1987.I tried various
    jobs,they never lasted.With me, I get an idea for work,gungho.Then I wake up one morning and can’t face getting into the car and going to work.my feet won’t move.
    My husband’s job carried insurance but even with the insurance we couldn’t afford the meds.I took myself off the meds.That was in
    janurary of last year.

    we have moved to another state now.
    His job doesn’t carry insurance that we can afford.I am slipping away again,i feel it.I need meds bad,but we dont have the money to spare.I have such guilt for my younger years,and at times I can’t bear it.I know it wasn’t easy for my children growing up with a Bi-Polar mom.It hasn’t been easy being Bi-Polar either.I thought that getting older would make it go away.it doesn’t
    Wow I didnt think I had that much to say
    thank you for letting me say it

  28. To EXPERIENCE_iimi: Girl, if you’re feeling hypomanic and “high,” it’s time to see a doctor or check yourself into a hospital. I’m not saying that your symptoms get worse as you age – it’s been 30 years since my last hospitalization, but I have had minor episodes of mania – but you don’t want to ruin what you’ve built up with so MUCH hard work by going into a full-blown mania.

    I’m no doctor, OR nurse, but I do know the symptoms of bipolar. For one, you KNOW you shouldn’t dispose of your meds, or try to self-medicate at this point. CALL your psychiatrist/therapist, and see if your meds can be “tweaked,” so you’ll feel better.

    I’ve been where you were; really have remorse for some of the things I’d done in a mania. Fortunately, however, I never had kids, so I don’t have the guilt trips some of the other bipolar survivors have with theirs. It sounds like yours have forgiven you, and still, and always will, love you. You sound like you were a good mother despite your illness, and getting your nursing degree had to be hard.

    Just – take care of yourself, so you can take care of others. I’m worried about you in this state; please get help.

  29. hi
    regarding your mom and christmas,
    it is for sure that christmas is the most stressfull period and it ignite mood swings.
    as you said and i think i understood, due to a cause of not involving in crhistmas as usual this year your mom was better this christmas.

    bipolar are smarter! because when they are up they take decision easier and more creative, because any thing is possible when they are up

  30. To Riad,
    Yes,they are very smart,and when they are up, they thake desicions easier and more creative. But to make a planning with them ,long dated, is very difficult,almost impossible, because the change of behavior with the high and low.Lilian P.

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