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Hi,
How’s it going?
I hope you are doing well. Hey it
was kind of interesting. I got a lot of
emails from people yesterday saying how
I should appreciate the snow because they
have never seen snow only on tv.
I guess you are right. I should appreciate
the snow.
I actually live in an area with four seasons
winter, fall, summer and spring and I do
appreciate that.
Actually there’s an important lesson for
bipolar disorder that I am going to be sharing
with everyone about where I live versus
where other people live.
I am going to be posting some videos online.
I just don’t know how :). I am not good with
all this technology stuff.
So, I have a friend who’s daughter’s boy friend
who is like 15 is going to teach it all to me.
There’s an important lesson here for bipolar
disorder. First, ask for help. Second, you
never know who can help you.
Anyway I will be posting this in a few weeks
and will send an email.
I am also starting a personal bipolar
coaching program because for like 2.5 years
people have been asking me over and over
again for one.
I always said no because I didn’t have one
setup. Then someone asked me to call him
to talk about how I can set it up. I really
appreciate that so I am going to be setting
one up in like a week or so.
I will send an email with the details.
Okay let’s talk about today’s topic.
Well, it’s almost Thanksgiving and
I wanted to talk about this interesting
conversation I had with a friend.
IMPORTANT BIPOLAR LESSON COMING UP
I have a friend that loves fortune
cookies.
Here’s the thing. He has a super strict
diet so he can NOT eat the future cookies
but he loves them.
If you go get Chinese food with him,
he will only get chicken and will insist
you give him your fortune cookies.
It’s kind of annoying 🙂
But he never eats them.
DON’T WORRY THERE’S A BIPOLAR LESSON COMING
I finally asked him why the other day.
And he said and this is a quote, “Dude,
whenever I read the messages inside,
a lot of the stuff comes true.”
I was like “what do you mean?” He said
that when he reads the messages inside
the cookies, that talk about how your
life is going to be, good things happen.
I asked him to give me examples. He said
this one time it said, “Something great
is about to enter in your life so pay
attention.”
He said that he was excited because he needed
something great to enter his life and then
he wound up getting a new job, which allowed
him to afford all his nutrition supplements
for working out and he met a girl he is
dating. And he said “dude she is really good
looking and okay with me being really big.”
He uses the word “dude.”
He said, “one cookie, three positive things.”
He told me how the cookies work.
It’s not just him. Many people believe in
fortune cookies and other things like lucky
charms.
Here is the important lesson on bipolar disorder.
There are many old books and now new ones
that are saying these days, you can bring
into existence what you think about and focus
on.
Now I don’t want to get way out in outer space
on you but I think it’s true.
I think this is what is happening to my friend.
He reads something positive. Then he expects something
positive. Then something positive happens to
him. It becomes like a self fulfilling prophecy.
The cookie because the thing that causes him
to start thinking positive. I would hate to see
if the cookies had negative messages because I think
if he saw a negative message, bad things would happen
because he would expect them to happen.
Now let’s translate this into bipolar disorder.
Let’s look at success people with bipolar disorder:
-They expect good things to happen
-They expect themselves to have good and bad days
but the expect everything will be okay in the end
-They expect that they can manage bipolar disorder
and be a success
Let’s look at success bipolar supporters:
-They expect good things to happen with their loved one
-They expect their loved one to have good and bad days
but have 100% confidence that the systems they setup
will be able to handle everything
-They expect that their loved one can handle bipolar
disorder and handle it well. They have confidence
that bipolar disorder can be managed successful.
In my courses and systems below, I talk about
all the key expectations from those who
are successful.
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Visit:
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Now let’s look at those that fail
who are supporters and survivors
The unsuccessful bipolar survivors
expect:
-They expect bipolar disorder to be a nightmare
-They expect to struggle for years
-They expect people to not understand them
-They expect people to discriminate against them
-They expect that they can’t be successful
-They expect that bipolar disorder will ruin the
rest of their lives
-They expect they will never ever find the right
medication because “they tried all combinations.”
The unsuccessful bipolar supporters are negative as
well:
-They expect their loved one to always be unstable
-They expect that their loved one can’t be successful
-They expect their loved one will struggle all the time
-They expect that bipolar disorder can’t be beat or
managed
-They expect they will never find a system to help
their loved one.
-They expect that things will stay the same forever
I believe that expectations play a major role in how
a person with bipolar disorder does or a bipolar
supporter.
The negative people get negative results. The positive
people get positive results.
I have seen this time and time again. I know people
with some of the worst combinations of disorders you
can think of. People with 5 or 8 diagnosis’s
and they do super well. But they expect they will.
Let me say something. Well first let me remind
everyone that I am NOT a doctor, lawyer, therapist
and NOT offering medical, legal or professional
advice.
Actually as a side note, someone asked me if
I cut hedges for a living. I do consulting
for HEDGE FUNDS (investment companies) but
I don’t cut Hedges 🙂 LOL
Okay, back to what I was saying.
I really think that even the best medication,
the best doctor, the best therapist in the world
can’t overcome a bipolar survivor and bipolar supporter
that believe they are doomed forever because of
bipolar disorder.
I know people who have a ton going for them (they
have a great doctor, therapist, lots of money,
family support, etc)
and they expect they will do poorly.
I know people who have everything going against
them (no friends, family support, money, house,
etc.) and they do well.
Both people get what they expect.
Remember the story of the fortune cookie when
you are “going negative.” Remember you get
what you expect.
One last thing. If you know people who go
to fortune tellers. The same thing happens.
I am not saying whether I agree or disagree
with this service, if you can call it a service,
but I have friends that go and feel totally
empowered when a fortune teller says good
things are going to come to them soon.
It’s amazing to me. Actually many people
who work for me with bipolar disorder or another
mental illness tell me I was the first person
to say they are smart, great, creative and a
huge asset to any organization and capable of
amazing and great things.
The reasons why I say these things is because
I believe them. Time and time again, when I have
had the most difficult problems, the ones no one
can solve, things that are complex, it’s always
someone who works for me with a mental illness
that solves it.
I really believe that people with a mental illness
are everything I just said. As a result, I wind up
getting what I expect in my own company.
Hey I just looked at the clock and I have to
go because I have interviews to do, I have to
go the library, map some stuff out, eat, etc.
Catch you tomorrow. If you have stories
about this concept post them on my bipolar
blog.
Your Friend,
Dave
P.S. Don’t forget to take a look through the
different programs I’ve put together… each one is designed
to help you with a different area of bipolar disorder whether
you have it or you are supporting someone with it.
You can see them all and get the details by visiting:
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P.P.S. Check out my F.ree blog with copies of emails
that I have sent in the past and lots of great
information for you:
http://www.bipolarcentral.com/supporterblog/
P.P.P.S Check out my F.ree podcast. Hear me give
mini seminars designed to teach you information
you can’t learn anywhere else.
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dear David,
well i usually say hay David, I hate Dear david letters…. lol
If anything i just wanted to say ur newletters are a cackle and a half , specially ur cracks about what people think u do… (ala) hedge trimmer…lol was grt… but especially the practical advice u give so well…is very much appreciated.. considering I have a mother and a brother and a daughter and maybe a son with varying degreees of Bi-polar. So keep the wise crackin goin as I have personally felt the need for every day crackin up at at least one thing in a good chuckle to keep things on an even keel… got me Mum to do that today too like u suggested in one of the newsletters and she took the hint.. was cool… thanks David.. for well written material and thoughts.
Kind regards,
Tracey
You are so right about what you expect is what you get. I just finished reading the book “The Secret”, and that is exactly what they say happens, positive energy attracts positive, and negative energy attracts negative. Very true! Good point!
Hey Dave,
I just wanted you to know how much your e-mails mean to me. Not only as some one who suffers with bipolar disorder but also as a bipolar supporter of a 17 year old son. Things in my house can get rough some times but knowing some one out there cares enough to gather this info. helps. Thank you again for caring.
your friend,
Dene’t
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Hi David,
My sister is one of those supporters you talk about. I think I am doing really well, considering, and every time I see her she gets all upset because she can’t “fix” me. It ruins the family get-togethers for me every time.
Instead of being happy to see everyone, I’m dreading the holidays.
Ellen
Hello Dave- once again thank you for all of your important information. As a cregiver I am finally getting some “positive” information from you. (:>) I also have the outlook on life about living on the positive side (although I am NOT a pollyanna)Thanks for keeping my spirits up in my house of bpd (husband and adult daughter) Have a Blessed Thanksgiving! Christy Crawford
Robert Parker
622 Cedar street Apt. G
Forney, Texas 75126-9458
phone [972] 552-9551
mentalhealthadvocate@livemail.com
November 14, 2007
My name is Rob Parker. I’d like to tell you the true-life history of a brave, beautiful 38-year-old woman battling Bipolar Disorder. The symptoms started at puberty, as a young girl of 13, growing up in a very abusive home–physically, mentally, and sexually abusive. Yet, she still got her G.E.D., attended College, was in the Navy Reserves and worked as an Executive Assistant to C.E.O.s of Fortune 500 companies. She got married, and has a 14 year old son. While being a very productive member of society, her bouts of depression started and got worse and more frequent.
In 1997, she was diagnosed with Bipolar Disorder at the Baylor Health Care in Richardson Psychiatric Unit. One month after she was discharged, she was readmitted to the Richardson Unit. Over the next four years she received little to no mental health care due to an abusive husband and no support system for intervention.
On September 10, 2001, after her separation from her husband and her son, she was admitted to the Timberlawn Psychiatric Hospital in Dallas. The abuse she suffered at this unit was horrible. It also seems like all the money is allocated for security, and not for patients, primarily.
So, in 2002, Sherri scraped enough money for a plane ticket to Europe. When she arrived, she found the University of Magdeburg Hospital in Germany and went in for treatment. She said she would have loved to finish her treatment there, “because they actually treated you as a person- and a person with feelings and rights.” But, as an American, she couldn’t get a national identity card to stay. So, eventually, she returned to the U.S.A.
In 2003, Sherri broke her back during a 4-wheeler accident. She had no insurance, could not walk, so the hospital placed her in a turtle shell back brace and sent her home. She received no after care.
She was classified as Disabled due to her Bipolar Disorder and broken back, in 2003; they retroactively dated her disability status back to 1999, when she was no longer able to work after a severe car accident in which her and a friend were involved. She eventually watched her friend expire, and this drove her into a deep depression.
Not even 12 months after the 4-wheeler accident, Sherri was the passenger in a roll over auto accident, which re-broke her back in the same place. Recovering from these two accidents did not help with the manic depressive nature of Bipolar Disorder.
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In 2005, Sherri was going to counseling and seeing the Psychiatrist at Terrell M.H.M.R. [known as Lakes Regional M.H.M.R.] While going there, one of the issues she was trying to get help with was that for her to see her son, her ex-husband physically and sexually assaulted her. The counselor she was seeing told her that she must have liked it because she was getting something out of it [ seeing her son]. She stopped going after that.
Now here we are in 2007, she is going to physical therapy 3 times a week. She sees a pain management doctor once a month and sees her primary Doctor once a month.
On or about July 16, she started battling the depression associated with Bipolar Disorder and the depression associated with the chronic pain throughout her body from the two accidents and the broken back and fibromyalgia. By the week of July 31, 2007, she was having thoughts periodically of hurting herself.
I had been in constant contact with Dr, Nhu Tran and her nursing staff. They worked with me to get Sherri in to be seen and evaluated on the 31st. It was determined that she probably didn’t require being an inpatient, although she did need intensive counseling immediately. The nursing staff, along with their social worker, got on the phone and contacted outpatient centers to get Sherri started in. On August 1, 2007 we got a call from Dr. Trans’ social worker, who said she found a center called “ The Jewish Counseling Center” in Dallas, which accepts Medicare she then gave us the phone number. I called them right away and left a voice mail for someone to call us back. Thursday, August 2,2007, we received a phone call from them, and they offered to take the application over the phone from Sherri. Once completed, they told us they only have a certain number of slots for Medicare patients and she would be placed on a month-long waiting list. They said they would call us when they had an opening.
I then called the social worker back to inform her of the waiting list. She said she would try to locate a center in the interim with someone else. She called back that afternoon with the name of Lakes Regional M.H.M.R. in Terrell. I called them and told the receptionist I needed to make an appointment with a counselor. She transferred me to a voice mail to where I left a message.
That Friday night, Sherri received the news from her mother that her step-dad had a rare form of lung cancer. Sherri spent the next week and a half going to her physical therapy, going to see her doctor and running up to the hospital to be with her step-dad, just trying to survive each and every day.
Sherri saw the social worker on August 13th, who again called the Jewish center. She stressed how important it was to get Sherri’s counseling started as soon as possible. They informed her it would be yet another month, at least. The social worker then called Lakes Regional and left a message for someone to call us. From August 14 through September 13, her depression kept on a downward spin, until I walked into Sherri’s apartment on Thursday September 14, at 3:15 p.m. to catch her taking a handful of her prescription pain pills. I called 911 and got her taken to the hospital.
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On Friday September 14, they transferred her to Hickory Trail Psychiatric Hospital in Desoto, Texas, where she spent 11 days as an inpatient. On September 21, Lynn, the discharge nurse contacted me regarding her upcoming discharge. She informed me that I needed to have counseling set up for Sherri before they would discharge her. I contacted Dr. Trans’ office and told them I needed some help. They contacted Lakes Regional for me and had them call me. They told me I needed to come pick up an application, get Sherri to fill it out, sign it and fax it in. I went and picked up the application, filled it out, took it to Sherri Friday night during visiting hours , had her sign it. I brought it back , faxed it to Lakes. I was told by an automatic client service line the application would be reviewed on Monday and could take up to 72 hours to be processed.
I started calling Lakes Regional Monday, September 24 at 10:00 a.m. I was finally put in contact with Brandy McCall, who listened to what I was trying to get accomplished. She said she would make a couple of calls and get back to me. Brandy called me on Tuesday to tell me the Sherri was approved and would be happy to schedule her for counseling on Wednesday September 26, at 11:00 a.m. I then had her call Lynn at Hickory Trails. A few minutes later, Lynn called me to tell me everything was set up, and I could pick Sherri up the next morning.
I arrived at 9:00 a.m. and they released her at 10:00. We went straight to Lakes in Terrell for her “counseling”. They called her back at 11:05 and returned her to the lobby at 11:20 with a card to return to Lakes on Tuesday October 2,2007 at 1:00 p.m. for orientation, They then told us that Sherri would schedule her counseling after orientation. Sherri said while in the office they made a copy of her discharge papers and then asked what services she was wanting.
On Thursday September 27,2007, Sherri had her first appointment with her new psychiatrist, Dr. Stephen F. Vobach. Dr.Vobach took Sherri’s complete medical history, looked at all of her medicine, made a couple of changes, then had a long discussion with her concerning triggers, anger management and ending with her treatment plan. He said he would see her once a month, monitor and prescribe her psychiatric medicines and follow up with Lakes Regional regarding her counseling.
We arrived at Lakes Regional on October 2, for her orientation, where Sherri, along with about 20 other individuals went for orientation. Sherri emerged a little more than an hour later with an appointment card to see a Dr. Hughes on October 25,2007 at 9:00 a.m. (She had just seen a Psychiatrist on September 27 and would follow up with Dr. Vobach, but if seeing their Doctor made things progress more quickly, she agreed to see the Dr. Hughes) We asked about scheduling her counseling, and we were told someone would be calling to schedule her counseling. On Friday, October 5,2007, after returning to Sherri’s apartment at 4:30p.m. following her physical therapy, I called Lakes Regional to follow up on her counseling. I was told that Sherri’s case manager had stopped by to see her at 3:00p.m. to see and talk to her. He didn’t call to set up a visitation, he left no card announcing he had been there, nor had he left no phone message stating he had been there. I was told that someone would be contacting us as soon as they could.
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On Monday October 8,2007, a Mr. Danny Tolleson called at 1:00p.m. identifying himself as Sherri’s case manager saying he would like to come by on Tuesday at 3:00p.m. to see and talk to Sherri regarding her treatment. We agreed to be here, and hung up.
On Tuesday, Mr. Tolleson finally showed up at 3:40p.m. No phone call was placed to us saying he would be late. After talking to Sherri for about 40 minutes, Mr. Tolleson gave Sherri a stack of handouts regarding anger management, safe places, etc. He left saying he would be in touch in the next couple of days. He also left his card with her.
On Thursday, October 11, at 3:00p.m. after leaving a couple of messages, Mr. Tolleson called to talk to Sherri. After several minutes of discussion, Sherri was beginning to get frustrated and agitated with his attitude towards her. He kept asking her “…have you taken your medicine today?” With nothing getting resolved, Mr. Tolleson said he would talk to us on Friday. When he called back on Friday, he spoke to me first. One of his first questions was had she taken her medicine today. This disturbed me and my response ended up being that all I wanted out of him was for him to do his damn job. He got Sherri on the phone and proceeded to tell her that because she was not willing to comply with Northstar he was closing her file. She then asked him what she wasn’t in compliance with, and he wouldn’t answer except to repeat that he was closing her file-good bye.
On Sunday, October 14, I got on the internet to pull up the state and federal statistics on Mental Health Care. It didn’t take long to figure out I had opened up a Pandora’s box. The figures I found shocked me.
(The figures reported were from the Federal Government’s web site from the 2004 census, which was the most recent data available.)
1. 57.7 million people in U.S., 18 years of age or older have a diagnosed mental disorder.
2. Mental Disorder’s are the leading cause of disability in the U.S.
3. 45% of these, suffer from more than 1 disorder.
Then, I dug a little deeper and found out that in Texas:
1. We spent $38.46 per capita on Mental Health Care
2. We are ranked 49th in the nation.
3. We are proud of this.
The more I read, the madder I got, the madder I got, the more determined I was to;
1. Get the appropriate legislature passed.
2. To get the laws we already have regulated.
3. Have less systems and more help.
4. To get help for those that don’t have an advocate.
5. Be a voice and a face to hear and see to remind Texans of the everyday problems we as Texans face. Until it works for everyone.
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We are not asking for laws to be bent or broken, just fixed so that those who are in need of help, receive it without having to “ Jump through Hoops “ as Sherri calls it. Or make an attempt at suicide just to get help…..
On Monday, October 15, I started calling all of our Texas lawmakers until I reached State Representative Betty Brown’s office. I spoke to a young lady named Amanda Jeffers. She passed along our problem to Betty Brown. Ms. Brown called us from her home that evening and said that we would talk on Tuesday, and she would see what she could do to help.
On Tuesday, October 16, Betty Brown called to tell me she would contact Lakes Regional to see what she could do to expedite things a little.
On Thursday, October 18, I received a phone call from a Susan Colegrove from Northstar stating that she had spoken with Betty Brown and told me she was willing to help us out. She then provided me with the names of four counselors here in Forney where she could get her counseling.
I got off the phone with her and called Ms. Carla Herron Phd. We set up Sherri’s first appointment on October 22, 2007, at 12:00p.m. To date she has had four sessions with Ms. Herron.
If we would have gone the route Lakes Regional M.H.M.R. wanted us to take, we would just this week [ maybe] be receiving a counseling appointment.
When you are in a Mental Health crisis, seconds matter; not days or weeks or months or years. I[we] don’t think that it is unreasonable to want the help a person is needing. You never know, that person just might become a productive member of society again.
Thank-You for your time and consideration.
This is what Sherri and I have to deal with as far as the public is concerned. It is very frustrating.
HI Dave, Nice E-mail , I needed to read something like that I’ve been with my husband for seven years and I’ve allways tried to be positive but lately all I can think about is divorce, He keeps abusing his medications and drinking on them and all the medication he takes seems to make everything worse. About a couple a months ago he was in a hit and run accident that was fender bender but they got him 10 miles down the road. The police officer said he was in very bad condition from his medication. Then a couple of nights ago I went to grocery store and left him in the truck when I come out I seen a plant in the back of the truck Got scaird jumped in the truck did not know what to do. The next thing I know We had three cop cars surrounding us and they had him against the truck ,He was very messed up on pills, klonopin and alcohol. They took him to jail for PI and store did not press charges for shoplifting. I was embarrassed and devastated. This is not the first time he has pulled something like this. How much can a person handle, I love him, but starting to get very negative just dont know how to handle it anymore. I have even tried to have him commited when he went to jail one time and it did not work. He lies, steals and has cheated on me and I have forgave him because I know he is sick. Maybe your story gave me a little more hope. He is very smart and has good imagination, He can be very funny at times and I feel he needs me to help him.
Well, Dave, I think you’re talking about the HUGELY successful book and movie, “The Secret;” the basic idea is – ask, believe, achieve. My Dad always said, “Act enthusiastic, and you’ll BE enthusiastic.” It worked for me!
A problem I’m having now, is that my neurologist put me on Neurontin, and I’m “high.” Pulled an all-nighter last night, and am STILL going strong. Don’t know if it’s the drug, or if I’m just feeling IN LOVE with my boyfriend. “Strange” things happen to me in the Fall. I’m “hyper” right now, but sleep well when I hit the bed. So – I know you’re not a doctor or such, but just thought I’d bring this up in case there are others out there who see ANOTHER doctor other than their psychiatrist, who orders different meds, especially for pain. My pain specialist refused to give me more morphine, so I have to wait until next MONDAY for a scrip. I’m NOT nervous or anxious, just “high.” My boyfriend has noticed a difference in me, but is afraid to attribute it to bipolar.
I’m sure I’ll “come down” as soon as I get the morphine. Meanwhile, I’m going to ENJOY the good feelings and “run with ’em!”
It’s all in your attitude; if you think you’ll be sick FOREVER, you will be. If you think you can “beat” this damn disorder – then you WILL.
BIG HUGS to all those with bipolar disorder, and the ones who love them. My prayers are with you.
Hi Dave,
I’m generally optimistic and agree with you that like attracts like (positive attracts positive, etc.) However, in my experience it hasn’t always been true about expectations. There have been times when everything seemed to be going in the right direction and then somewhere along the line it all went pearshaped and horribly wrong through nobody’s fault – just fate! It happens the other way round too. Something doesn’t seem to be working and looks like a waste of time and effort. Then when I’m at the point of giving up on it, it turns round in my favour. I do believe in fate and most experiences (good, bad or strange) are sent to us to learn from. Everything happens for a reason. I also believe in cause and effect, i.e. you get back what you send out. A sense of humour always helps. My bipolar friend says he prefers to be low rather than high, as when you’re down the only way is up. He has had a terrible life and got through it all by looking on the bright side. We are learning a lot from each other and help each other in many ways. He encourages my creativity and often cheers me up. Sometimes he does my head in with his moods (lol) but thanks to your emails and articles on your site I now know how to handle that. He also made me aware that my (sadly now ex)husband most certainly has bipolar disorder. Every symptom you describe, fits. When I first met my friend Danny I noticed how extremely similar he was to Dave my ex. The big difference between them is that Danny is very open about being bipolar and controlling the disorder reasonably well with the right medicine and attitude. Dave would never admit to anyone (except perhaps to himself) that there is anything wrong with him and refuses to get help, though he is very unhappy. After we lost everything I still stuck by him but somehow he felt threatened (perhaps worried that I was going to get him sectioned or something like that) and so he left me. His daughters blame me for everything. It would be too much of a long story to give all the details of what happened a year or so ago. He doesn’t want to be with me, talks of divorce, but still we keep in touch with each other, have remained friends and even email jokes to each other. Some of my friends think he is a bad man the way he treated me, but I know he is really just a sad man and maybe one day he will seek the help he needs and be happy and well again. Your emails and mini-course are a great help to get me to understand bipolar people.
Best Regards,
Nightlady
I have those negative thoughts at the moment. Don’t know how to get over them.
HEY DAVID,
I LIKE WHAT YOU SAID, I WAS ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT THOUGHT MY LIFE WAS DOOMED, BUT KNOW I THINK ON GOOD THINGS. IF SOMETING COME IN MY HEAD NEGATIVE, I LET IT PAST RIGHT THROUGH. AND AGAIN THINK OF GOOD THINGS. HOW BLESSED I AM .AND HOW I AM GLAD I WAS DIGINOSED, BECAUSE I FEEL NORMAL (what ever normal is :0)) it has changed my life, old behavoir and not feeling right ? i am truley blessed for so many things. and thanks to you and your familiy (at work) for all you do. keep up the good work !!!!
tonya