Surprising Truth About Bipolar Disorder & Alcohol

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Hi,

What’s new?

I hope things are going well for
you and you had a good day
yesterday.

I wanted to write about something
that I don’t think that I have written
about before. But it’s a serious
problem that has to do with bipolar
disorder.

I got an email from someone who
asked, “Can you drink when you
have bipolar disorder”

At first I thought, “What a silly
question,” because you see
commercials all the time on TV
about how not to drink alcohol
when taking this or that medication,
whichever one they’re advertising
for. But then I thought, well, they
never advertise for bipolar ones,
so maybe it’s a valid question
after all.

Either way, I decided to answer
it here, because I’m sure there are
more of you out there with the
same question.

First let me say, I have
never had a drink in my life.
I am not saying that to brag
just to let you know I don’t
speak from experience.

BUT, I haven’t jumped off a cliff either
doesn’t mean I have to do that
to know how bad it would be for
me 🙂

But I have done a lot, and I
mean a lot, of research into
bipolar disorder, as you know, and
along with that, there is a lot of
mention about people who have
the disorder who also have problems
with alcohol abuse.

Even by itself, without bipolar
disorder, alcohol can be a huge
problem. See, alcohol is a
depressant. Which is kind of
funny, because people who are
depressed don’t know that, and
they turn to alcohol to make them
feel better when they’re depressed.

And too many people end up as
alcoholics, with or without the
bipolar disorder to deal with as
well. But since I’m only talking
to people who have the disorder,
I’ll only talk about it in relation
to that.

Let’s just talk in terms of your
medications. There are all kinds
of warnings not to take alcohol
with your medication, aren’t there?

So it’s kind of a moot point to even
ask if you can drink if you have
bipolar disorder because of course
you will be taking medication for
your disorder.

That’s the simplest answer I can
come up with!

Drinking alcohol can be bad enough
in itself, but can be deadly for the
person with bipolar disorder, when
mixed with their bipolar medications.

In addition to this, there are so
many other bad things that alcohol
brings.

It can and usually does cause weight
gain. It causes people to eat more
when they are drinking. It causes
people to engage in relations with
people they normally wouldn’t.
It causes people to say things they
normally would not and get them
into trouble.

It causes them do possibly drive
drunk. It causes people to spend more
money they shouldn’t spend.

The reason why I have this list in my
head because I had this conversation
with a person in the gym that said, “How
come you never ever drink.” I gave her
the reasons.

As much as she wanted to NOT believe
what I said, she had to believe it
because everything was totally true.

This person by the way does drink and
and alcohol has caused many problems
for her.

If you go through my courses/systems
below, you will not find one high functioning
person with bipolar disorder that drinks.
I don’t know of one person at all.

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And many of the people in my courses USE TO
drink and they indicate it made it almost impossible
for them to get their bipolar disorder under
control.

Oh, I forgot one more bad thing with alcohol.
Some who drink become violent.

I seriously might have 3000 horror stories
of people with bipolar disorder that were
drinking and not stable. If you think that
a person with bipolar disorder who is not
stable is bad, when you add alcohol it makes
it 100 to probably 1000 times worse.

This is going to sound crazy, but I would appreciate
if some people with bipolar disorder that use
to drink would post how bad drinking is on
my blog and warn others.

Now if you have a loved one with bipolar
disorder and that person doesn’t drink and you
the bipolar supporter does, I would recommend
you stop drinking. I would recommend you
get rid of alcohol in the house as well.
It’s just a good policy.

Well, I’m off again! So many places I
have to go.

Catcha.

Your friend,

Dave

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to help you with a different area of bipolar disorder whether
you have it or you are supporting someone with it.
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  1. I have problems with my step child drinking to calm the effects of not being on his meds.It helps him chill,then he needs some weed because the drink isn’t working anymore. In AA these people are called self medicators. They belong in a dual diagnosis group where they are drilled on taking their meds and not self medicating or using.Just my two cents worth.

  2. I am a bipolar supporter and have experienced the drinking. It is a way that they self medicate. It magnifies the problem and causes more. They become another person, and not a very nice person to be around. Luckily, my loved one has stopped. I am greatful. Alcohol is not allowed in my home.

  3. I have been dating someone for 14 months who has Bipolar 2…he is always manic and takes seroquel to help him….He also drinks and quite a bit.
    He is quite accomplised in life and owns his own business.
    Therefore he is able to pay an accountant to handle all of his bills and finances so has no issues there. He is almost 40 & has never been married….
    Now I now why….
    I am here to tell you first hand that Bi-Polar disorder & Alcohol do not mix!!!!

    We had six months of Bliss….I thought that he was the Man of my dreams. Then I began to see the Dr. Jekly & Mr. Hyde part about him….He becomes so mean & NASTY towards me when he drinks.
    He says things that other people won’t ever dare to say. He treats me awful….I never get an apology.
    He has screamed at me, thrown me out, even once been physical. It is absolutely awful. I am always on pins & needles wondering when his switch will come on.

    He always tells me that the episode is over something that he isn’t happy with regarding me, justifying his actions. I am logical and know that it helps make him feel better, but I am a wreck.

    I have lost all self esteem, lost weight myself and in counseling because of this man’s issues with Bipolar disorder & Alcohol.
    The two don’t mix.

    This has been witnessed now by several friends and Family members of his who are SHOCKED!!!! They point out to me that this is VERBAL Abuse and very wrong.
    I have been on and off with him for the past 4 months every time there is an episode.

    I am completely supportive of him and willing to go to couseling but he feels that there is no need.

    ALCOHOL is bad when a person has Bi-Polar….it makes them do things which they otherwise wouldn’t & turns them MEAN!!!!

  4. I used to have a loved one with bipolar who drank a LOT. After he drank a few beers he would become verbally abusive, loud, aggressive and insulting, even bullying. He physically assaulted me, even when we were making love! He got into fights with strangers on the street for looking at him the wrong way. He was a total loose cannon, and I became afraid of seeing him when he was drinking. He embarrased me in public, he hurt me and my feelings, and even tried to kill my cat by throwing it off the balcony! (It landed on one balcony below, thank God). Bottom line is, I have not seen this person in 10 years and never want to see him again! Warning to bipolar people–don’t drink.

  5. Hi,

    I am a recovering alcoholic of 3&1/2 yrs. I am also bi-polar. I’m one of those who self medicated for many, many, years. I was a functional alcoholic who even owned my own business. The alcohol caught up with me around age 35. I would go to treatment for 30 days, come home and start drinking in 2-3 days. My meds were not working because of the alcohol so it was a vicious cycle. After 12 treatment centers, jail, divorce, loosing everything I held dear to me, I finally hit bottom. Some people take longer than others. All that matters is where you are going to get that next drink, is the liquor store open yet? You are the one thats waiting in the parking lot at 9:50 because you didn’t judge right and are going tnrough withdrawals. Where the clerk has to write your check because you are shaking so bad.

    I thank the Lord he got me through this. I have my husband back, a new house and car, friends that never gave up,health, and best of all a wonderful relationship with my son. I forgot to mention I have been in therapy for 3 yrs. My self esteem has never been better!

    You could say I was one of the lucky ones. ( My doctor has found the right cocktail of meds for me and I stay 95% stable.

    Good luck to all out there who is struggling with addiction. I never thought I could live without my Vodka- It can be done!

    Sincerly,

    Chrisx

  6. I have a son who has been fighting the fact he is bipolar for 12 years. He was diagnosed by a psychiatrist 10 years ago, but he won’t accept it. It has caused havoc with his life, including self-medicating with alcohol. In addition to being bipolar, he is now an alcoholic. And when he drinks he gets completely out of control. He gets mean, goes into rages, throws things, puts curses on people, speaks in tongues, drives when he shouldn’t be. He is the nicest person when sober, but becomes basically insane when drunk. Even though he won’t admit he is bipolar, he does admit to being an alcoholic and having fibromyalgia. His doctor have him Klonipin to help him sleep, and now he is addicted to that, too. He even gets crazier when he mixes the Klonipin and the alcohol. He was in a terrible almost fatal car accident two years ago from mixing alcohol, Klonipin and marijuana. He broke his neck. He could have been killed or paralyzed. You would have thought that this accident would have scared him straight but it didn’t. He just went back to drinking and abusing Klonipin. His wife has left him several times in an effort to get him to accept his problem and to get help. He’s been to several programs for alcoholics and he even went to a $10,000 rehab center that didn’t do a thing. He is currently in trouble with the law for threatening to have his wife killed when he was in a manic drunken rage. We have tried to get him hospitalized, but without his consent we can’t do a thing. The judge and state’s attorney’s office only want to throw him in jail. They have been no help at all. We keep hoping and praying for help. Our son is a good person with a bad problem. We need help!!!

  7. My father was a bp1 and later I found that I am a bp2

    Any way my father never took meds but he drank profusely and was always a storm waiting to happen. He would throw things yell, swear ect but harldly did these things when he was sober even though he was still moody.

    We were all targets to him when he drank. think we (childern) all had near death experinces with him.

    So I agree Bipolars should not drink.

  8. I have Bipolar and I drink. Not everyday and not alot, maybe two or three shots and that is it.I don’t drink and drive because I have seen the effects of it.I just stay at home away from everyone because I have trust issues with people, so I am not mean to anyone nor do I yell or scream at anyone. The reason I do this is because I am tired of being tense ALL the time…I need to chillax sometimes and this is the only way to get my nerves out of a huge knot.I have never heard of this self medicating thing.

  9. I’m bipolar and use alcohol alot when I’m not on my meds. I’ve been arrested more than once while drunk for angry fights. I hate myself more when I’m drinking but find it hard to stop. I’m between P-docs again. That means I’m not on my meds. I know how great it feels to be on my meds. The doctor I had last time told me he didn’t think I was bipolar and wrote out my prescriptions! What? Why would he do that? I didn’t go back to him. I find it better when I have a team. Counselor, reg. doctor and Phyc. doctor. So when I don’t understand what one is saying I have someone else to ask. I’m going to call doctor office today and set appointment. I hate feeling hung over!

  10. I am not certain that my husband has bi-polar disorder, but from the descriptions I’ve read he does. He is severely alcoholic, and I believe the alcoholism has masked his basic problem. He started drinking at 17 when he entered the Army, but I believe he has always been bipolar. No one seems to want to address that, nor does he. We’ve been through every in-patient and outpatient treatment available to us, and needless to say he has given up on himself. The alcoholism has caused us to file bankruptcy twice, he’s been in prison or jail a total of 16 years out of our 20-year marriage, not to mention the time he served before we were married. The alcoholism has destroyed not only his life but our sons’ lives and mine, as well as the extended family.

  11. Hi Dave,
    I just wanted to comment on this email. I am a supporter of a person that is bipolar and I used to drink. She is my significant other. I stop drinking, not because of her but because it was causing me grief in my life. I was depressed about where my life was going and I thought drinking would take away all of my problems and it did nothing but add to it. It took me away from my children, family and friends and it almost took me out of my relationship. I always tell people that you should never drink if you are down about something because it doesn’t make it better, it makes it worse. I wanted to tell you too that your newsletter is really helping me to deal better with my mate’s bipolar disorder, I understand things better too. So, keep it the good work. I just wish that I knew about your newsletter four years ago when she was first found out about the disorder. It would have saved me from alot of pain and heartache.

  12. Please help, I am in a similar position as shal is. What do you do to make your loved one believe that they have bipolar when they think that everything is ok?

  13. I inherited the bipolar disorder from my father, and at one time in my life I would not take my med’s. I had been on lithium, which in my opinion is a horrible drug. In 1 and a half years on it I went from 135 up to 200 pounds and was more depressed than ever!! So I stopped taking the medication, against doctor’s orders. Of course my life began to unravel! My diagnosis was bipolar 1, with rapidly cycling mood swings. I went to counselors to seek help, and understanding as I really wanted to know why I felt the way I did. Also why I did,and thought the way I did. I read books on self help. But there was no help! At that time I did not have my computer, so I was not hooked up with the vast resource that the internet provides. I had drank alcohol in the past, so I went back to my favorite Jack Daniels. It did not take any time at all and the alcohol and my bipolar disorder got the best of me, and I was headed to…PRISON!
    I am writing this today to help support the wonderful man that has done all this research on the bipolar disorder, who has never had a drink in his life. But has been asked, by several people, can I drink and take my medication? Well, I have been off my med’s and drank, and went to prison for 19 Months…NOT ANY FUN FOR ME OR MY 4
    CHILDREN! Or my dear mother, and whole family who stood by and loved me!!! I have also been on my med’s and drank, and turned into a violent ugly person! When I realized I was having feelings that under the influence of my med’s and alcohol I may be capable of physical bodily harm to another human being. I STOPPED DRINKING ALL TOGETHER! I have been taking my med’s every morning and night, faithfully since 1999, when I met a great counselor in Ft. worth, TX.
    who put me on Topamax for my mood stabilizer, and Wellbutrin for my antidepressant. Those two med’s have done for me what all the other one’s I have tried would not! And with them I did not have the weight gain problem, nor do I have to check my blood levels or worry about bad side effects. And Wellbutrin is one of the very few that does not have the sexual side effects. The only thing to watch for is migraines. After taking for 7 years I had migraines all the time and did not know why until I found in the perscription drug reference book that one side effect of Wellbutrin, is migraines. So I had to stop taking that and am now on Cymbalta and doing fine. I so appreciate you Mr. Oliver for the fine work you have done for all of the people that are like myself, bipolar and living on a rollacoaster everyday.
    It is not easy, because the people in our families most times do not understand, or even care to try.
    I am blessed by God above that I have a good support system in my life. However, I pray for those who do not that they will read this and listen. You are all very special people, and life is worth living. The bipolar disorder is very managable, as long as you get on the right medication, and stay on it every day for the rest of your life!!! Not just until you feel better, but forever because this is a mental disorder that will literaly destroy your life if you do not manage it right. For the rest of your life. It does not go away, but the quality of your life can get so much better if you take care of yourself, and make sure you surround yourself with people who love you and support you. If not get out of the toxic relationships, they will destroy you. Abuse is not love! And life is too short to be unhappy! God Bless you all! Linda Joseph

  14. my son is bipolar and an acoholic. He had been drinking for 10 years-when he was diagnosed with bipolar disorder. He drank because it made him fell better! And never took his meds. After a recent suicide attempt, he was in a 28 day treatment center. He is finally taking medication and not drinking. He is also following a 12 step program and is in therapy for bipolar. Finally he is taking care of himself. And he is the only one who can do that.

  15. I have a daughter 44 . who is bipolar anddrinks gets violent and has been jailed because of it. she has gone to aa now and seems some better as far as the drinking. but her mood out bursts can sure hurt.

  16. I am so thankful that I found this website. I was engaged about 4 months ago. My finace’ has bipolar disorder. One night we got into a terrible fight,alcohol was involved. I haven’t spoken directly with him since this happened. I am crushed. Reading your research I understand a little more about the disease. I want to help him but maybe I am making it worse?

  17. Dear David,

    I have Bi-Polar disorder and I take 3 Seroquil tablets every evening 1 hour before I go to bed. They help make me sleepy so I have a good nightès sleep.

    On a Friday evening I have 3 light beers with my pizza supper and occasionally I have 2 glasses of wine with dinner when company is over.

    On special occasions I will have 3 or 4 small glasses of light draft beer.

    I have no after effects from these beverages probably I am drinking while eating and stop when I am finished the meal.

    Seroquel makes me feel 30 years younger (I just turned 65) and was diagnosed this year in March of 2007.

    I believe that most things done in moderation will not harm you, but I am writing from personal experience only.

    Great newsletters and god luck to all who write you.

    Janet Klein

  18. Here is the journey I took with self-medicating. BPD signs showed up in my life at about 17yrs old. I started smoking pot to relax the mania because I kept getting grounded for saying and doing stupid things. Pot stopped working on its own, I turned to alcohol to keep me social and alive (I thought) and just smoked pot to kill the hangover affects. My episodes slid into the traditional highs and lows and I started drinking and smoking pot as often as my finances allowed. Once again my BPD evolved and began to slide to depressive episodes much more often than manic. At this point I was so tired of “parenting from beneath the sheets” in a dark room, I found the perfect “Super Mom potion”, Meth. Once again I was up and down up and down. Smoked that for 7 years, smoked pot and alcohol profusely to come down from the meth after 3 or 4 days up and nearly succeded at 3 suicide attempts. My take on any self-medication; whether it is drugs and alcohol, sex, shopping, etc. Although is seems to alleviate BPD symptoms in the short run, self-medication is really agravating the symptoms to a much higher degree. Eventually your body or mind grows a tolerance, and soon you are left w/ heightend BPD symptoms and nothing to “take the edge off”. All that’s left is taking your life whether it is a bullet to the head, or a drug overdose. A woman I went to rehab with was on something for BPD (I forget what). Her doctor warned her that alcohol would greatly reverse the affects of her meds. A day and a half after she began taking them, she got druck at a bar, walked outside to her car and before she reached her car, she collapsed onto the sidewalk. A chemical reaction between the meds and alcohol had stopped her heart. By the time some other alcoholic found her and got her some sober help, her brain had been without oxygen for 20 minutes and was dead before the ambulance arrived. An unwelcome lesson, but one I will never forget.

  19. Dave, just wanted to say thanks.About the drinking article. I’m not even sure if my daughter or I maybe bi-polar. But, I have MS and have just learned a traumatic lesson on the using meds and drinking… Thanks. Brenda

  20. I am so glad I got your email about drinking and being bipolar.
    I was told I was bipolar just last year. I have had a few hospital stays because of it. I was thinking about drinking with my friends, but now I’m not thanks for the info sent to me.

  21. My only child began drinking and drugging at 13. At 19, he went on a bad trip, which left him permanently damaged. As a result, he has taken HEAVY mental meds for 30 years. Until 9 years ago, he drank constantly. He knew something was wrong inside but was not diagnosed until 1989, with Tardive Dyskinesia. He is on crutches and oxygen now, 24/7. He cannot breathe, walk or talk right. He suffers TERRIBLE muscle spasms and lies there and screams sometimes when the meds don’t work. I took him to NIH in summer 1996. They checked him in and out the same morning. There is nothing that can be done for him. He will probably only live another year or two. AA has been his spiritual salvation (he got sober 9 years ago), but the physical damage is irreversible. DON’T DRINK AND DO MEDS!!!

  22. Hi, I am a supporter of a bipolar person and often wish I wasn’t. I have been with my husband for 15 years and up until about 3 years ago he drank. It was very scary. He started out just drinking on the weekends to unwind but then it became an every day thing. Alcholism runs in his family and so I figured he probably was an alcholic. I talked to him about getting help and he eventually decided he would. He loves to be the center of attention on his conditions and decided he was going to milk it out for what it was worth. No Im not being evil for saying that. He has always been that way about everything and depending on which mood he is in he will even say “I did it for you” or “You had nothing to do with it I did it for myself and he doesn’t need me to get by”. Anyways once he stopped drinking the frequency of the hatred and verbal/some physical abuse slow down dramatically. Keep in mind he was not seeing a doctor for bipolar until about a year ago now. Right before he went to the doctor he did fall of the wagon and got drunk and because of that he did things to me that was completely unimanginable. I hated him for that and to be honest I have not completely recovered mentally from it. He swares he does not remember doing the things he did to me but he did. I personally like to drink on occasion(once a year, maybe!)but I really can’t enjoy myself because of him. In my experience a person with bipolar should not drink because of the harm they can cause there families.

  23. Well thankfully my husband does not drink much. However instead of turning to alcohol he turned to marijuana and it was ugly. This is how he was self medicating.

  24. I have finally been diagnosed with Bi-polar disorder, after many years of being an alcholic. And it just about killed me three times in the last year. It wasn’t until my last suicide attempt that I was told about the Bi-polar. Many people neew that I had this disorder, but failed to let me know.

  25. i used to drink before i found out i had bipolar disorder, fibromyalgia and cfs. i always said liquor made me mean. it wasnt the liquor it was the illness mixed with the liquor. i didnt care what i did or said. i dont drink any longer and am on medication.
    thank you,
    tina

  26. I am bipolar, paranoid schz, manic depressive and have PTSD. I take 6 medications for it all. Four years ago i used a lot of street drugs and alcohol. I’ve been clean for 4 years but wonder if my past abuse is affecting my current treatment. Also,if anything, what can I do about it?

  27. I am an alcoholic and have been dring for decades. I am also bipolar 1. I have been completely foolish to drink while taking meds or even just being bipolar. I have had many depressions due to drinking and 2 manias. I am very blessed to be a member of AA and life just gets better every day.

    Thanks,
    Eugene

  28. Yes, I USED to drink while on my bipolar medications. In fact, I was a “problem” drinker, but you COULD possibly call me an alcoholic.

    I USED to drink a 6-pack of beer, and at least 4 Canadian whiskey & water A DAY. I would drink and drive. One reason I drank beer, was that I had dry mouth from the meds, and I figured the FLAVOR of the beer beat drinking water or cola. Isn’t THAT a logical reason??!! I NEVER got depressed while drinking; in fact, it always made me feel better – this is called “self-medication.” I guessed that my dosage wasn’t high enough, so I was drinking to “mellow” me out.

    I started drinking beer in college, and continued until I quit. But it seemed that the older I got, the more I drank. People said, “But you never LOOKED drunk.” That is NEVER a good excuse. It seemed as if I needed a good “buzz” to function “normally.” That, too, is a GREAT excuse, isn’t it??!!

    I was never hospitalized for any alcohol-related reasons. My hospitalizations were for manic episodes that had gotten out of hand. Then, I would just get out and continue drinking.

    You ask – why did you quit? A good question. I was put on a new antipsychotic, and figured that if I wanted it to work, I’d better let IT work WITHOUT the alcohol to interfere with what it was trying to do. So, in 1999, I just quit – cold turkey. It took me 3 days to get over the craving, but now, I don’t miss it. In fact, the very THOUGHT of drinking beer (“horse piss”) turns me OFF.

    I still have a tablespoon of bourbon on my fruitcake at Christmas, and a tablespoon of bourbon in my egg nog. At times, in a fancy restaurant, I will have a cocktail (I NEVER finish it).

    IT IS VERY DANGEROUS TO DRINK WITH YOUR BIPOLAR MEDICATIONS. Not only does drinking cause problems with interfering with the efficacy of your meds, it CAN and DOES lead to “problem” drinking AND/OR alcoholism. Trying to battle your bipolar illness on top of drinking, is a toxic combination.

    I HIGHLY recommend that you STOP drinking IMMEDIATELY if you suffer from bipolar disorder. If you CAN’T quit on your own, go to Alcoholics Anonymous to help you. Their 12-step program is excellent, and you work with a peer support group that is willing to encourage your stopping. This also goes for bipolar supporters. You CAN’T “be there” for your loved one if you are “out of it” and combative while drinking. There IS help out there for you. Although I never got in trouble with my drinking, it was a wake-up call for me when my medications were changed. I WANTED to quit, so I did.

    This is coming from a former “problem” drinker, so listen up: WEAN yourself from drinking; it can only aggravate your condition, and inhibit your meds from doing what they are supposed to do to keep you on your treatment plan. I’ve BEEN THERE, and I KNOW.

    BIG HUGS to all bipolars and their supporters. And GOOD LUCK in abstaining from alcohol.

  29. I’m well aware of the problems that arise while drinking with bipolar even if you’re not on any meds. I was drinking heavily for a while thinking that I was just young and liked to party. I’ve made many mistakes, with my thought patterns ripping into my soul and tearing out whatever common sense I had left. I had recently quit drinking. Well honestly, I drink socially now, even then I don’t even want it when it’s offered. It got old and has already done enough damage to my life on top of the damage from the bipolar disorder, my life isn’t really a life at all. I wouldn’t advise drinking, even socially. It just triggers the effects of bipolar and turns the smoke stack into a mushroom cloud. If you need a bad habit to go with your bipolar, try biting your nails or keep biting them. Then you can say you have a reasonable bad habit instead of a destructive one.

  30. I have had many many problems related to my bipolar and addictions. It has caused me thousands of dollars my self dignity and pride. I recently moved to the Virgin Islands after going through a bitter divorce, 16 years together, he never understood my disorder and actually gave me drugs and alcohol to “calm” me and make me happy. I have switched my doctor since moving here and he has convinced me to join an AA support group after a weekend of not taking meds drinking and blowing my entire bank account. This is the best advice he could give me as I have found a group of people who accept me and are there to support me when I need the help and even if I don’t want the help. I put myself in rehab in the past after a 12 day drinking and drug binge but without the continued support of the people at the meetings I found myself right back into the downward spiral even contimplating suicide again. So take it from me drinking is one of the worse things a bipolar person can do. It has been 2 weeks now (i know it does not sound like a lot but for me it is) and I feel like myself again and am happy to be alive which is usually a hard statement for me to make.

  31. My comment goes out to agree w/ shal. I two have been w/ someone, but it has been 3 years on & off.

    The first week end we spent togetner he asked me to marry him. I was getting out of another relationship… mind you we had went to school & same class together since 2nd grade never imagined something like this would happen since we were just friends thru school, we’re both 46 now, and I just wanted some time to just have some fun and scope the situation out first.

    We both are divorced. I have been for 16 years, abusive husband, have 3, ages almost 30,27,24 children & 6 grandchildren. He has been for 5 years,4 children ages 17,15,13,8. The 17 year old lives with us and she is so embarred by he fathers lifestyle its heartbreaking.
    So I suggested that we try this for 6 months and see what would happen. Well…. all hell broke loose in less than 3. Physical abuse first, shocker never in my wildest dreams did I guess that one, then came verbal/mental abuse..not good. It did not matter where we were either, embarrassing. Until one night I got slammed down in the bar & when I got up I knew that one of us was going down but this time it wasn’t going to be me,so I clocked him ,he picked himself up off the bar floor.I walked out the door amazed, relieved,embarrassed and happy.

    Since then it’s been really rocky and he drinks more.I am not going to stand for any man hitting me for any reason. I truely love this man but sometimes I like to choke him.

    I see a counselor to help with myself sometimes I wonder why. Love or stupidity, that is the question.

  32. I’m so glad that the Philadelphia Compact has prioritized helping children growing up in families affected by parental bipolar disorder and other behavioral health issues! The Training and Education Center at the Mental Health Association of SEPA has been pushing this issue for years and will be glad to help by sharing our resources and providing training. We also provide support and training for adult family members of adults with mental illness and substance abuse, and training for providers to become more “family friendly.”

  33. I know that maybe this isnt the place to put this but i am bipolar and am on medciation.
    I am stable and have been thinking to myself that its a waste of resourses to continue taking my mediaction.
    BUT reading your words of wisdom I have decided that its because of the medication that i feel so good.
    I really think a lot of bipolar perople feel as i do and go off their medications because they think that they are cured. YOUR VIEWS PLEASE

  34. HI,
    Just wanted to say that about 6 yrs. ago I had a serious drinking problem that was tied in with lying, cheating, exotic dancing, drigs, and probably several other things i can’t remember.

    Apx. a yr. ago I was diagnosed with Bipolar 2, which I’m pretty sure that i had 6yr. ago when all my problems occured.

    I’m just writing to say that I know from fitst hand that alcohol and drugs do NOT mix!! However I do know they make you feel good at the time you’re doing them, but it’s NOT worth the cost. The cost of HURTING yourself and other FAMILY members!!

    You MUST REALIZE that it’s NOT just yourself that your HURTING!!! And alcohol causes most medication to increase the drowsiness effect.

  35. P.S.— Forgot to add: now I am taking medications. I only drink on rare occasions, but when I do I get very mouthy, loud, dizzy headed, can’t remember the next day what happened the previous night, and it takes me a few days to recouperate.

    SO SERIOUSLY, ALCOHOL IS NOT WORTH DRINKING WHEN YOU ARE BIPOLAR!!! IT’S JUST PLAIN AND SIMPLY NOT WORTH IT!!! TAKE IT FROM SOMEONE WHO HAS HAD FIRSTHAND EXPERIENCE WITH IT!!!

  36. I too, live with a bi-polar spouse. He started having problems with the mood swings, the depression, the just not fitting in when he was a teen. He’s past 50 now. He abused alcohol & drugs all his life. He was in the Navy, diagnosed with various mental and nervous problems, medicated, but his family thought otherwise and talked him out of taking his meds. He was given an honorable discharge when he wanted to make the Navy his life. He fought his problems for years, in and out of jail and rehab, still taking his drugs and using his alcohol to help him feel “normal”. His family always found excuses as to what his problems were. I married him almost 20 years ago. I was in the medical field and as you can guess his family was thrilled that he finally had someone to watch over and care for him. As I read an earlier description of a partner, he was Jekyl and Hyde. I never knew who I was coming home too. Life was always tumoil. I was trying to raise my own children thru this and then had another with him. I tried to leave, but couldn’t, the Court kept giving him unsupervised visitation with our 3 year old daughter. He drank constantly, I had proof, it did no good. He talked to God, talking in tongues, saw angels and devils, and still they wanted to give my daughter to him. I’m not even going to go into what it did to my other children, how they grew to be as sensible and reliable as they are, I will never know. But I was forced to go back to him to take care of our daughter. He finally had a complete breakdown and thank God for the VA, they literally tied him down, sedated him and carried him to the hospital and admitted him. With some testing and gathering of family history, his paternal grandmother had many of the same problems, he was diagnosed as bi-polar and put on meds. His family fought toothe and nail, he didn’t have all those problems. It had to be me. Of course, he is an accomplished liar, he could make anyone believe him. His family finally accepted he has problems, but as I was told “you knew what you were getting into when you married him”. Nobody could know about such. He still wanted to drink and occasionally do drugs. He finally accepted, or seemed to, that he couldn’t do as he wanted. His family was so thankful that I stayed and took care of him. He did pretty well for a few years, but now, he will occasionally drink and he self medicates with pot-to calm his nerves. He gets so depressed he stays in bed for days on end. He never seems to notice that one of his spells comes after visiting with his old buddies, who oddly enough have the same diagnosis as he, that he will get extremely depressed for days to weeks. He listens to no one. Our 14 yr old daughter is so angry so much of the time, I feel so badly for her, but I can’t leave him. Someone has to care for him and I’ve seen what we’ve been thru in the past, so I just make sure he has his medicine and try to curb his other habits as much as possible. I don’t know what to do to help him, but it seems that every time he’s doing well, he’ll hook up with his buddies and it’s down the tubes again. My daughter and I just live with it. I let it pull me so down for so long, but now I mostly do whatever and just let him sleep. At least he no longer hurts anyone physically. Believe it or not, our daughter is a very well adjusted and mostly happy young girl, doing well in school with many friends and involved in many school activities. I am so proud of her. Me, I just keep holding on. I don’t know what else to do. I care for our daughter and try to take care of everything that needs to be done. Oh, as you have said, one of his old habits was the abuse of money, also. I finally got control and got that mess straightened up, but we lost so much. Living with a bi polar sufferer has taken my whole life. It can be really lonely. Thank God for my kids. I would advise anyone who gets into an involvment with such a person to think long and hard of the consequensces and if it is worth it. It can take your life.

  37. PS Forgot to say, that, Yes, this is an inherited disorder, and because of what my husband has suffered, and what I have learned over the years, that I talked my sister-in-law into taking her daughter in to be evaluated, diagnosed and medicated for bi-polar disease. This very special young woman is doing so much better and has a chance at a life, that my husband didn’t because of early diagnosis and treatment. I know she will not have it easy, but at least she has a chance. So many families are in such denial, that it can slow the diagnosis. It’s too bad someone didn’t help my husband when it would have really counted, when he was young enough to accept and learn to deal with his life. Now, it just seems like a waiting game to pass the time til he’s gone. What a waste. If only acceptance of and diagnosis of mental illness could be done sooner. It just seems that so many are in the denial mode, that it can’t happen to me or mine. So wrong!!!

  38. Hi Dave! I think that It’s late to write you about this, but I wanted to do it. Back in 2003 when I had my 1st episode, I found my recover soon, then one of my brothers was so happy to see me than he bought some stakes and beers to celebrate with me my quick recover. I drank only 4 beers and felt worse than before. I remember that Mom was so angry with me and my brother, because We’ve lost all my progress and We needed to start again!

  39. I remember how my Doctor bawled me out and advise me that I could’nt drink any drop of alcohol anymore. Also, He encouraged me to take a double dosis of drugs in extended time. I could’nt drink the health for new year in 2003. The worst that I had felt it was what I’d called “a permanent hangover”, endless headache and extremely sensitive ears. IF YOU LOVE AND RESPECT YOUR LIFE “DON’T DRINK” SPECIALLY WHEN YOU’RE UNDER TREATMENT HAVING OR NOT BIPOLAR DISORDER. Thanks for all Dave!

  40. I used to drink I am a recovering alcoholic, addict. Drinking and having bi-polar just made my symptoms worse. My highs and lows were uncontrollable and unpredictable. Now that I’m in recovery my life is much better and I am alot happier. When I drank it was like I was someone else and my family didnt want any thing to do with me. Today I have my family back.

  41. self medicating is a last ditch effort that becomes permanent and deadly. You can destroy your liver and your life. make the “final decision” to stop before someone or something does for you.

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