Hi,
How it’s going today?
Today is the Super Bowl (big championship game in the USA for football)
I have to do some work and then I am going to a friends’ to eat and watch the game.
Before I take off, I wanted to tell you something important and shocking.
I’ve heard about and read so many scare stories of people with bipolar disorder who went off their medication just because they missed their “manic highs.”
Well, for one thing, they’re only thinking about themselves. They’re NOT thinking about family members or the other people they hurt when they’re in a manic episode.
They’re forgetting that mania isn’t always a “high” feeling, either.
Sometimes they can feel irritation, agitation, anxiety, anger, and even rage and violence.
They may miss all those times of what they perceive to be clear-headed thinking and great thoughts and ideas that nobody else has ever thought of before.
But, in reality, this is delusional thinking and grandiose thoughts. They are, simply, not in their right mind.
This causes them to make bad choices and poor decisions.
They may think it’s fun to go out on that shopping spree, spending all that money, but they don’t think of the consequences of empty bank accounts, maxed-out credit cards and possible financial ruin. In my courses/systems, I go over all the signs and symptoms of bipolar mania and a manic episode, including the things I just talked about:
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One woman with bipolar disorder said:
“I had such incredible dreams and aspirations when I was manic. I, too, thought the world followed me though their eyes. I felt so attractive so sexy, so desired. I miss my mania”
(another symptom of mania can be risky sexual behavior)
Sometimes your loved one, in a manic episode, may act as if they’re driven by a motor – full of energy and drive, with less and less need for sleep.
They may talk frequently, rarely pausing between sentences, and their speech may be rapid as well.
Again, this is another sign of bipolar disorder, and a part of their manic energy.
They may resent you (and others) for not wanting to go along with their dreams, because they don’t understand that their dreams are grandiose and usually unrealistic.
Nobody is trying to steal your loved one’s dreams. When they are more stable, those dreams may (or may not) still be there. But dreams need to be approached in a more realistic way – with long-term and short-term reachable goals, etc.
Like the same woman in the beginning of this email (once she was stable) said:
“Now life is predictable, comfortable, and reliable, and I constantly search my soul for what my life’s true purpose is.”
Dreams are great, and they can possibly come true.
But there’s a difference between realistic dreams and manic grandiose thoughts and ideas.
And I’m sure you want them to be happy. But the “happiness” that comes with bipolar mania is NOT true happiness.
Stability is the most important thing in your loved one’s life.
That way, their dreams will be realistic ones.
Don’t you think?
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i can finally see what my manic epsodes do to me and others it’s not good a recent manic episode caused me to ruin my relationship of 13yrs. It has ruined my life I have lost everything I am now constantly depressed. trying to get it all back. I know I have to go day by day. It seems some days last a week. I don’t know what to do if somebody has an idea I need it. Leah
Hi Dave
I have been going with a Married Bipolar woman for a year an a half. she is and was a wonderdful person. She helped realize I neede a divorce.as the time has past I went through my nasty divorce. She was suppose to take care of things on her end also. mine finalized in mid October. as my Divorce was going on I made some mistakes by not sheilding her from things like she asked, but I only tried to keep her in the loop,and be honest with her. She is an A student in Nursing School and her husband is a captain pilot and very wealthy. well, right be for the holidays he found out about us via a text message that I sent her. long story!!!!. But she has been in this loveless marriage with this guy for 9 years. she has an almost 8 year old daughter with bibolar also. I love them both very much. she is so stress out and she is not sleeping at night and she also has no Adrenal gland which makes her Cortisol dependand. Yesterday she told me that I had to let her go, because she could not handle living two lives any more. I told her to get rid of him, She said that would make things much worse.
Please Dave let me know what you think. I should do.
Dan
Hi
I’m in a relation with a gal that is bipoler. For the last 11 months we lived together she is a trip. I mean that at one moment she is ok the next she is in a manic mood.Love her a lot thats why I keep reading all the info I can on bipoler. Thank U Gale
I am really interested in what you have to say, i am Bi-Polar but dont want to be, iwant to stop it. My long suffering husband has red what you have to say but does not believe in it and thinks it is very good marketing, i cant get past this without aggrivation and at the moment i am just not stong enough. Thank you.
I thought I missed my “rapid thinking” for the last year, since I have been diagnosed and been taking meds for bipolar. However, in the last couple of months, I found that I could catch on and troubleshoot problems at work, in a calm and I could better explain my logic, rather than before- I would have an idea/or troubleshooting, but I didn’t have the rapid thoughts-I could focus, rather than be distracted by the racing thoughts. Also, I can actually relax, enjoy my family, work without overworking those around me (since I thought everyone thought as fast as I did, in my usual manic state). I have better relationships, since I can listen and follow a conversation, rather than dominating a conversation-and little memory of what I had started as the topic five minutes before. Its nice to be at the same pace as the rest of the world. Its peaceful, finally.
chris s. (diagnosed at age 41)
I just want to thank you for the information you have emailed me. I have a wonderful son-in-law who is bipolar, they have been married for almost 9 years. My daughter has stated that at times it gets to be to much to deal with this disease. I read a comment a while back that you had from a woman with the same response, everyone who is married needs to remember that this is what “in sickness and in health” in the marriage vows meant and to ask themselves if I had cancer or any life long disease wouldnt they want there partner to be supported and help them through it? also, support groups are there to help the person who has bipolar and the spouse, look for one in your area.
Hi Dave:
DO NOT MISS MY MANIC PHASES!!! I tore my parents up. I talked my dad into co-signing on a $9,000 loan which they are now having to pay as I can’t. Wrote a 57 page hate letter to my mother and 29 page letter to my brother telling him how bad we were really treated growing up. Totally lost it.
Glad to say I am now on meds, have been stable for a year except for debilitating sleepiness from anti-depressants. Was finally put on meds to counter act that and lose weight! Do I miss my mania? Not one single bit.
Teri
Hi I was diagonsed with bipolar in 2007 after my second sucide attempt I was hospitalized an put on several different medications. They made me very sick, but I kept trying to do what the doctors said an tried different ones. One year after taking medication for this I became pregnant an stop taking all meds I was on cold turkey!!! I about lost my mind all over again. Its been a very long life for me. I got my tubes tied an they warned me about the changes I was going threw an what it may cause with me being bi polar. I figured oh yea I could handle it. But now my sons 6 months old an Im under alot af stress at home!!! Im all of a sudden going days with so much energy I cant sit down. And threw weeks of endless nights that I cant sleep at all!! Leaving me fill like Im coming off of a bad drug trip!! Im becoming very moody, agitated, Ive gotten physical with my fiance twice in the last month. The last time Im very ashamed to say I gave him two black eyes that he carried for a week! Im really scared of how little it takes to set me off! I dont have Insurance, Im scared of being sick all the time if I get back on some meds for this. I need some help I dont know what to do! I feel very confused, angry, tired ( I feel like Im going to loose my mind) How can I feel beeter soon. 34 year old mom of 3 please help!
HI… I would just like to ask what is the main corse of bipola… is there a few.
linda
Leah, I married a woman who is bipolar. Words can hardly describe what I went through with her…until that is that she was finally diagnosed and treated for it. The only salvation for the bipolar situation is proper treatment and medication. For many, medication is a four letter word, drumming up negative thoughts,. especially when one is manic and not in need of anything. See a psychiatrist and get started.
hi Dave thankyou for continuing with your information, tips and help. Your emials cover all the areas that are relevant. You talk about senarios that happen without realising that they do. Its reasuring and supportive to read your experiences and what your responses are to these moments of mania. regards alison. supporter of anxiety depression.
Do I miss my “manic highs?” Yes, sometimes, but NOT enough to go back there. I look back on all the things that led to my 3 hospitalizations, and they were FULL of sexual indiscretion, delusional thinking, little sleep – while I was going through them, it WAS like a “drug high,” but it WAS a “bad trip.”
I am now stable, and no longer have the delusional thinking or the rapid speech; but I am somewhat hypomanic. Just tonight, while my boyfriend and I were watching the Super Bowl, he turned to me and said, “I thought you wanted me to warn you when you were chattering away.” To me, I was just asking questions or making a comment about something in the game, but the rapid thoughts are starting to come back. My sleep/wake patterns are irregular, but when I DO get to sleep, I sleep long enough. I TRY not to be irritable around my boyfriend – but he’s being obnoxious to me, especially last night. He shut me out of the bedroom, and didn’t even say “goodnight.” I deal with his behavior just because I need his companionship. We don’t have an intimate relationship (his choice), but we have a 3-year-long history, and I DO care about him. I just leave him alone when he’s like this and go about my own business.
The irritability hit me yesterday morning, when a collector called about paying my bill over the phone. My voice rose, as did my blood pressure. I finally asked him, “Do you speak ENGLISH?” I told him I would write a check on Monday, and finally, he agreed. I don’t LIKE to be disagreeable, and it frightens me when I lose control. This happened about 9:30AM, and I woke up at 3:45AM, so I hadn’t had much sleep.
Believe me – all those out there who want to REPEAT their manic “highs” MUST be delusional. There is NOTHING fun about them, and they DO ruin interpersonal relationships and you WILL get in financial straits. STAY on your meds, see your psychiatrist, and listen to your therapist. To me, being manic is SCARY…
BIG HUGS to all bipolar survivors and those who love us. May God bless you real good. I pray for my country.
I can imagine you could miss hypomania. When my boyfriend was in that stage we were both in fairyland, so to speak. Every little non-descript thing was beautiful and awesome. He was at his most creative, producing works of art at the speed of light. We dressed up and went out singing and dancing in the street. The fun part of it was somehow contagious. He has told me from time to time that he enjoyed the hypomanic stage, and I enjoyed it with him. I think if the whole world was hypomanic there would be no more wars.
However, I’m sure that the full blown manic episode was no more fun for my boyfriend than it was for me. Religious mania followed by anger and paranoia. Passion mixed with tears and despair. Through all that anger I could see terrible pain in his eyes. Now he can’t remember much of what he said and did during his episode, while he does remember most of the hypomania. He says he does not enjoy full blown mania as it wears him out. He knows he is ill and has to take his meds. He also knows that it is the enjoyment of hypomania that makes it dangerous. Many people with bipolar want to continue with that euphoric feeling and stop taking their meds. Then within days they are in a manic episode, later ending up in the psych ward or crashing into deep depression. Some months after the manic episode and hospitalisation my boyfriend had to go through a depressive episode, as the doctors did not want to risk increasing his anti-depressants in fear of that taking him too high again.
I was previously diagnosed with Major Depression, which recently changed to Bipolar II. I don’t remember ever having the “highs” of Bipolar. I either feel mildly depressed (at best) or suicical (at worst). Even as my life has possibly improved a little over the past few weeks (for the better, I hope…but I can’t say for certain), I still have times of thinking I don’t want to live and I am terrified of the future. I think stress may be contributing towards my negative thinking. It is difficult to change, despite how hard I try. I know that I just have to get through each moment at a time and not be stressed about the future because I have no control over it. I can only do the best I can with the things in which I can control.
Hi,
I realize now that I have had bipolar disorder my whole life, but it wasn’t until my daughter was almost three months old that I had my first full-blown manic episode. I had never even heard of bipolar until I was diagnosed in 1998. Between hospitalizations I cried and cried mainly because I had no idea what had happened to me. This disease ended up ruining my marriage and caused me a lot of missed time with my baby. I was there with my baby, but the medications were so strong that I was like a robot. I have always wondered why I was put in this world to be tortured. I have been hospitalized numerous times for full-blown manic episodes. My mom and the cops that would have to bring me to the hospital always thought that I was on drugs because my eyes were so dilated. I have never taken drugs in my life, but they couldn’t figure out why my pupils were so big! My drug screen came out clean in the emergency room. One patient in the hospital with me would not sit by me because he said I looked possessed! Later I had to be evaluated by a psychiatrist to get into nursing school and I asked him why my eyes would keep getting dilated when I would go manic. He thought for a second and said “adrenaline”. Every since that day I started researching adrenaline. Please read up on the Fight or Flight response, it is our body’s emergency response system hardwired in everyone’s brain in case of an emergency. Also,please read how the Fight or Flight response works with the adrenal glands on top of the kidneys. As bipolars we stress all of the time and all of the stress hormones happen to be located in the endocrine system! I have also noticed that many bipolars have thyroid problems even when they are not taking lithium which is one drug known to cause thyroid problems. I get adrenaline rushes all the time even when I’m taking all of my medication. It’s like I just really want to go jump out of an airplane, go to a wild rock concert or go on the trill rides at Six Flags all of the time! I can get those rushes from driving in my car listening to the radio. I would not ever want anyone to take the good rushes away because it’s the best drug ever and it makes me happy! If you get the “mean” adrenaline rush that makes you want to shot yourself or someone else without even thinking first that is when it gets very, very scary! Whether it’s the good stuff or the bad stuff, I feel it rushing from the tip of my toes to my fingers. It is very intense, especially the bad stuff. The aggitation is just like extreme PMS and I hate that feeling. But what is PMS?…HORMONES. I told my psychiatrist recently about the adrenal glands and fight or flight. He rolled his eyes at me and really made me mad. The next time I went into his office to see him I just started telling him about the “adrenaline rushes” whether he wanted to hear it or not and he actually starting listening and agreeing with me.
This disease is not “all in our heads” even though I know it has alot to do with serotonin and other neurotransmitters. I have made an appointment with my endocrinologist for next mounth. I plan to have a whole lot of questions about how the endocrine system could play a part in causing mania. Hopefully we can get to the bottom of this problem for us and the future generations! Since I feel better now, I’m just getting involved with NAMI in my area. I have to still take my meds and get plenty of SLEEP! Good Luck!
Brandy
I can understand what this woman means and i can understand what your saying david. you have to remember when the depression is so bad that your suicidal the grass is always greener on the other side then when you have mads making you so doped you cant function that you’d be better off dead you have to understand WHY someone would want the mania. Its NOT because they are not thinking of others its the feel good feeling, I know my husband prefers me depressed but to me thats not fair either. Its seems to me theres no middle ground.
– drugs/meds and you dont function
– depressed and possibity kill yourself
– mania and have fun but love ones hate you
God Bless Amanda
I learned the hard way about going off my meds because I missed the highs. After my episode the low was the worse I’d ever had and had to climb out of that pit again. I don’t like how the meds control my life, however if I want any quality of life it’s a fact I have to accept.
Hi Everyone, My Lung Doctor (I have emphysema) just told me that I probably have 6 months to a year left to live. I would like to feel the manic episodes for a while so I can get some things done before my time is up, well not full blown manic, but hypo-manic would do, because the emphysema has me so wore out I barely have any energy and I have a hard time breathing just walking the short distance to the bathroom so I spend most of my time in bed watching TV and playing my Nintendo DS Lite Game. I have been expecting to hear this for quite some time now, but reality hits home when your very positive Dr tells you something like this! Manic episodes are very hurtful to all involved and I hope and Pray that none of you suffer from another Manic Episode!
As a bipolar writer who has survived more than 25 years after being diagnosed, and losing my very successful career because of the stigma then (and probably still) attached to mental disorders, I enjoy the energy and creativity of hypomania and keep a checklist of what I call “manic intrusion” to guard against untoward behavior. And I still take a maintence dose of Abilify because of adverse side effects of lithium.
The best thing a bipolar person can do is develop
“productive self-consciousness.”
Lewis
Hi again dave, I just caught your e-mail about BP’s going off their medications because they miss the “Manic Highs”…well I can understand how they feel, how I felt. Being on the medications suppresses the moods to the point where you cannot react, or your just too mellow, too calm, too quiet…I found it that way. I am a very hyperactive person at times, I have a bouncy personality, and I found being on the medications, totally dragged me down, doped me out, calmed to the point where I coulod not react much to anything, very lifeless, but still life full…so I have stopped taking them to, I am doing okay, a lot of mood swings, and behaviors come up and down…but until I can find a medication that does not make you feel like a doped out zombie, I do not want them…..
At the same time I can see where you are coming from to, the family members do have to deal with this, and it can be unfair to them as well, it is not that they are not thinking about the family members, or being selfish, we just hate being a prisioner to the medication!
Dave;
I miss MY LIFE!
That’s Right, the psychiatrists, & their deceribating, TOXIC (LOOK IT UP) chemicals have RUINED my Body Mind & Soul. Also Family & Friends.
Before psych. I had a GREAT LIFE.
Now Life is worse than Death, better now I have stopped the Meds.
Yes I stopped “medication” ALL say: “Keep doing what your doing, you are a lot better.”
It is PROVEN FAR BETTER Results LESS readmition, WHITHOUT “Meds.”
SO why use them?
Simple, whithout them their would be NO Disorder. NO psych…..
Wake up, NONE Believe that which you spout.
Dave;
I requested a Debate, you hath not answered, thus I see you have NOTHING.
AS ALL KNOW! Trade of fraud, known as psychiatry. Iatrogenic disorders installed & maintained Via Polypharmacy.
Of the quack, by the quack & for the quack. PROVEN World Wide.
WAKE UP DAVE; GET A JOB!
Hi Dave. Har’s my deal. I was told I was Bipolar by my family doctor. She asked me all kind’s of question’s. She said, based on my answers, I was, infact Bipolar. So, I started taking Zyprexa. It worked well,till I started driving for a new company. (I drive a semi over the road). There doctor told me, due to DOT regulation’s, I could not take that and hold a CDL. So I was switched to Lexapro. That worked GREAT for about 3 month’s. Then, I got so depressed, so manic, I all most killed myself. I went to a phyco therapist at that time, and that helped some. But I went to work for a new company, and Im never home to go to therapy. Also, I quit takeing any med’s, becouse I’m out of all of them and dont have any refill’s. Havent had any sence the 2nd week of november, 08. And Im back to the point where Im eather mad as hell over nothing, or Im so depressed, all I want to do is sleep, which I do do much, or I want to die, and I dont have the gut’s,(thank God), to kill myself. Almost everyone just think’s Im a jerk, or a self centered Ahole. I dont want to be like that. I want to be nice, have people like me, and just be a good husband to my wife,(21YRS). A good father to my kid’s,(All adult’s). but I just cant seem to do anything right with any of them, no matter how hard I try. The only time I come close to feeling half way normal, what ever normal is, is if Im half drunk. And I dont drink that much eather. Im lost and dont know what to do. Can anyone help me. Im at the end of my rope, and affraid Im about to loose my grip on it.
I don’t miss the mania. If anything, it would be the hypo-mania that used to be me – that I missed to a slight degree. I definately don’t miss any type of mania now, because I’ve adjusted to the medications and now know what it feels like to be “middle of the road”. At first it was oh so boring and I felt idle. It took a lot of getting used to but I did eventually. These days I have learned to be comfortable with who I am and how I am.
Hi Dave,
I came accross your “site” especially for bipolars and families just by chance. You are just terrific ! In fact, you are doing just the thing that needs to be done to enlighten both the sufferers and the people around them. I am a “recovering” bipolar. That means that I have full control of when the ups and downs start to happen. Naturally, I take action immediately because I hate the hypomania which is a signal that a full mania will take over if I don’t the right medicin recommended by my psychiatrist. Yes, and I head straight off to bed. It is also important to know that aches and pains are an indication of a very important fact : one being that you feel miserable socialy and mentaly, the other is that hypomania is due to “arrive” to counteract this. Now, Dave, I could go on and on about this. Sure I know that I am BP. I hate the hill up to mania that destroys the body because of lack of rest, but the worst part is the DEPRESSION. BIG letters, that’s the killer. I always make certain that I take my mood stabilizers and I never resort to anti-depressants without calling the doctor. Anti-depressants should not be taken lightly as they also can lead to mania. According to the last medical research and statistics: One third of bipolars become chronic “they never learn, never cooperate and their doctors use every kind of medicin they can think of, which isn’t helpful if the meds are many”.
One third of bipolars recover but they have to take their mood stabilizers for the rest of their life and learn to cope.
One third take their lives. I should know about suicide. Tried 3 times but aborted almost immediately. The first was to use a gun. The second was fire in the bathroom (called 911). The third finally pills.
So, my dear Dave, there is so much to do in this area that it resembles what Hercules had to go through cleaning the Augean stables.
Bless you and keep up the good work. If by chance you want to know more about “recovering” people with psychological disorders, you can look up Joel Slack who works very hard to help people around the world. He travels,tells his story and focuses on what
the mentally different people need to know plus what the health care proffessionals should always remember : every one case is different and every patient needs respect, support not to mention the right to express their feelings (they are mostly very scared ones !)
Take care
Gabriella
i love my partner with all my heart, he has bipolar but seems to think hes grown out of it for some reason. i joined this website when he first told me and read all the e mails u send and this as just brought it all home to me about the grandeous feelings he has.I sit and listen to him and try to gently guide him when he says he needs to and will buy all his kids houses when i know hes in debt. I dont tell him dont be daft u cant do it i listen and say hey u know kids build there life we cant interfer they will make it how they want it. This week as been hard i too feel down and hes not been in touch for days and i cant get hold of him i worry so much because love him so but he still insists he has not got bipolar anymore but shows all the xlassic signs. I have worked in mental health and want to be there for him but it hurts when hes not there too for me at times. David i too need a friend when the days are long and he doesnt realise that he hasnt been there because he doesnt. Your e mails have been so much help, dont know where would of been without them thankyou so very very much
Hi Dave,
In June 2005, I was finally diagnosed with bipolar I. After being diagnosed, it still took me three years of therapy and the right medications to manage my thoughts and behavior.
I don’t think there is a cure for bipolar, but it can be managed. When I was younger (currently 44), I had a wonderful sister who tried to commit suicide several times. She died when I was fifteen; she was only twenty-five. I believe she had bipolar, but at that time, no one knew what it was. I can remember having thoughts of suicide when I was only twelve years old. It’s sad to think it took me twenty-eight years of drinking, fighting, going to jail, and being miserable, to finally be diagnosed. I was treated for depression a few times and also treated for anxiety by the same doctor, but never both at the same time. Some doctors just can’t put two and two together and get four. I never really heard of bipolar until I was diagnosed. I really hate the way people mock bipolar. They really don’t understand how serious it can be!
I really appreciate the education you provide on bipolar. I actually purchased your material a couple of years ago. It inspired me to listen more carefully and talk to others who were diagnosed with bipolar.
I really can’t believe how far I came in the past two years. I drank daily, fought all the time, had several suicide attempts, had a few trips to jail, had a jealous temper, could not cope with changes in my life, and almost lost my husband and family. I can now manage my thoughts and behavior. I am very happy. I even managed being laid off from work last year and it took me nine months to find another job. I am very blessed.
Do you think I will ever have severe manic or depression episodes again? I know I have mild episodes, like staying awake for long periods of time, but should I expect anything severe? There is still one traumatic experience that happened in my life when I was ten, that bothers me and I can’t seem to talk about it much, but I don’t think about it all the time. It usually only bothers me when someone talks about a similar situation. About three years ago, I went to group counseling for a few months for this and did very well, but when it was time to advance to the next stage, the counselor said she didn’t feel that I was ready. It really upset me at the time. Should I try to continue now, or do you think this would only set me back?
Thank you for your time and I look forward to reading your response.
Sandy
I lost my husband to mania. He refused to treat his bipolar properly. He also has narcissism which makes the bipolar mania 100 times worse. He said he was in love with the mania and has been for 2 years. His family has blamed me for all of his problems. My son and I are healing now and we have been told to just take time for us to heal from all the abuse that goes along with mania. My husband’s delusions and verbal assaults and threats and intimidation were very frightening. My son now has complex post trauma and nightmares of being killed by him. Why does mania mean more to someone than their family?
Commenters, seems you’re so boring you interpret the dreams and fantasies of mania less seriously than the nightmares of depression; seems you can’t absorb fully the idea that neither state is fully realized by someone ‘suffering’ a manic or a depressive episode!
Drugs won’t help, what will is focusing on the understanding of your loved one’s oscillation through consensus reality – they see more power and more fear than most. You can help them by grounding yourself in the real and achievable, by refusing to follow them out into despair or elation; failing at that can make them feel further from you.
I have succeeded and I have failed; what it has taken is a realization that there are times when I cannot and should not involve others in my insanity.
Thanks for all your efforts that you have put in this. Very interesting info. “Hold faithfulness and sincerity as first principles.” by Confucius.
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