Hi,
I hope your day is going well.
I am behind schedule because I have been in pain.
Oh before I tell you about that, I need some help soon.
I am going to be posting a new job position for a person who can do a wide variety of things including but not limited to writing, researching, editing, admin stuff, thinking, planning and problem solving. I already have many people who work for me who fit this description but I need one more.
This would be a great position for someone who is on disability AND has one or more mental illnesses like bipolar disorder.
IMPORTANT NOTE
This does NOT mean I would not hire someone who does not have a mental illness.
I will be posting something soon about this.
Okay, I hurt my back AGAIN yesterday in the gym. I can’t believe it. It’s hard for me to sit for long periods of time.
It’s really odd, in the last few months, I have done things I have done in years:
-fall in the river (hiking…hasn’t happen in probably 16 years)
-slip and fall on ice (hasn’t happen in like 10 years)
-hurt my back (twice…hasn’t happen in like 8 years).
Very strange. Hopefully I got all the bad stuff out of the way for the year : )
Okay, let’s move on to today’s topic instead of getting you to feel bad for me.
I need to talk to you about something.
It’s something I taught about a few months ago as well but I wanted to bring it up again, okay?
Thanks.
Anyway, I got an email from someone that says that so much of what I say is incorrect.
That doesn’t bother me, because I know it isn’t true.
Then the person says that they just want to be heard.
Ok, a lot of people say that.
Then the person says how hard it is to live with bipolar disorder and that I don’t understand and it’s the worst.
Is this person a bipolar cry baby like someone who has bipolar disorder said to me?
I mean, talking about your problems is one thing.
Even a little complaining might be ok.
But there are forums for that – like your support group. Or even your friends or family.
But too much complaining might be considered being a cry baby.
Think about it – if someone comes to you and cries on your shoulder about their problems, you probably don’t mind, do you?
But if they go on and on and on about them (especially if you can’t do anything about them), you might consider them a cry baby.
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Is your loved one a bipolar cry baby?
Do they come to you and complain about all their problems?
About things you can do nothing about?
And, if they do, how does it make you feel?
So, you don’t want to be that way, do you?
You don’t want to be a bipolar cry baby, I know you don’t.
So what’s the alternative?
I know I’ve told you this before, but it bears repeating.
You have to learn to be a good problem solver.
One way to do this is to list out all your problems.
Then you start listing out all the possible solutions, from the simplest to the most impossible, however you brainstorm them (someone told me, “the impossible just takes a little longer.”).
Now, I’m not saying that all these ideas are going to work, or even that you’re going to find your solution the first time that you try this technique. But at least you TRY to find a solution, instead of “crying” about it! And if you keep trying, I bet you WILL find a solution.
The important thing is that you become a problem solver instead of a bipolar cry baby, like that person said.
One person told me, “If you’re not part of the solution, you’re part of the problem.”
Good advice, don’t you think?
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I noticed you have a job opening for someone like me. I’m on disability and suffer from bi-polar disorder. I’m interested about the position you have mentioned today in your daily reading. My contact e-mail address is aqueen1@carolina.rr.com, if you would consider me to help out.
Alan Queen
I’m beginning to think that BP sufferers, have a grudge. Waaayyy back when, they probably don’t ever talk about it. This might be a root to the problem, the problem of going into an episode. They might have a problem of letting go, of the past, of the hurt, of someone. Growing up with someone such as bp, I seems very likely. This is from observational perspective only. No certified diagnosis, but rather educated guess. It might signal the intensity of event, and extent of damage might be shown by the amount of craziness going on during the episode.
Dear Dave,
I am a retired journalist (25 years at Business Week and Fortune) whose career came to an end when I was publically diagnosed as bipolar more than
25 years ago. Survival was not exactly easy and I agree with you about the ambiguities of disability.
I would be interested in working with you but would need more specifics about the job. I have been reading your blog for about six months and have some criticism–constructive–but this does not seem the right venue or time for it.
If you are interested in pursuing the possibility
I would prefer that you call me directly at (561)640-4492.
Regards,
Lewis Beman
I don’t seem to do this anymore, but when I was first diagnosed with bipolar disorder, I couldn’t talk about it ENOUGH. It was such a devastating diagnosis. I felt like I had to explain my feelings to anyone and everyone. It seems like I HAD to explain WHY I was like I was. It got to the point where, like you say in your email, that I WAS a “bipolar cry baby.” I was using verbal communication to express an emotional feeling. My Mother eventually told me that if I mentioned it AGAIN, for the forty-umpteenth time, that she just wasn’t going to listen.
Of course, I had a psychotherapist who listened to everything I had to say, and I could vent with her to my heart’s content. But – it seemed every new friend I met – or even a new boss – I had to JUSTIFY my actions and thoughts to make them UNDERSTAND that I WASN’T “normal.” I wore it like a “badge of courage,” and only hoped they would understand…
I’m older – and wiser – now, and no longer feel the need to explain how/why I live like I do. Either the new person accepts me for who/what I am – or they don’t. It does absolutely NO good to go into details or uncover all the BAD that goes with bipolar disorder. It just – IS. I’ve accepted my diagnosis, and am living proof that you can, somewhat, manage the bipolar without it managing YOU.
It’s hard NOT to be a “cry baby” upon first finding out you have a life-long devastating mental illness. But, sooner, rather than later, I learned how to accept it, and live with it without “bothering” everybody who would listen, about it.
BIG HUGS to all bipolar survivors and those who love us. May God bless you real good. I pray for my country.
Wonder how many people with terminal cancer are called
cry babies.
This would be my first time ever to comment on anything , or any blog , or even opinion sharing , i read your news letter almost daily.
Sometimes the information i read is very painful , and has even caused me severe panic attacks [it is the truth slapping me in the face ], ofcourse, i then have to avoid too much truth at one time, i have been going to theropy for 3yrs now after living with a multitude of yrs of not thinking anything was imperfect about myself , but as most, a dear friend sat me down and we went from there , of course again my issues are mine to bear , but it is nice to read the comments today by:suzanne.
i am happy to know that i can read enlightening information fron your hard work with your mother, and the population you have obvious inspired readers,i tend to ramble , so i will end this note with a simple “Thank You” you have all made a difference in my decision making , and i am now ale to leave my house at times, but most of all i fell i can go on. Brad
David, I am a supporter of someone with mental illness. I really relate to most of your emails, just because it is common sense advice written in a very imaginative way(and honest!). I am at a crossroads in my life and do not know which way to turn. Your job opening speaks to me on many levels. I live in CA, so I don’t know if that would work for you.
If you are interested in talking please email me.
kathyl_maxwell@yahoo.com.
And again, thank you for your great emails! KAthy
Hi Dave
I have read many of your postings, and bought a bit of information from you in the recent past, it was useful in conjunction with the other info I have found and studied. My wife is bipolar, type 2. If her services might be able to meet your needs, and she can work form our home I would like to have her get in touch with you about the possibilities.
She is quite talented, as are many others who comment here, she would rather not be bipolar, and was improperly diagnosed for many years, and treated for depression alone. Soon after being given adoral (amphetamine) as one of the medications for depression she went into a major manic episode, (not fun at all, for me or our family). After this she was re diagnosed as bipolar type 2 and the treatment was corrected.
She has a talent with language, (unlike me) and some time on her hands, as I moved our family to a small town where the children could walk to school, (or anywhere) and we could get away from the problems associated with more of a city life. Soon after we moved she said “we have moved to a campground” ( I like it).
We have a DSL line, and some good computers.
I will not suggest this possibility to her until after communicating with you about it to see if it would possibly work for you. Yes I am a bit of a over protective bipolar supporter, but I also want to help her find ways to both be and feel needed and productive.
We have also adopted 8 children over the years from Russia and Romania, giving us 12 total, about half of them are at home now, 13 is the age of the youngest. I could be that some of your adoptions were triggered as much from her milder manic episodes over the years as anything, we are not real clear on that yet, as the correct diagnoses has been less then 2 years ago.
Thanks
Barton
435-219-9076 cell
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A note to all the others interested in the job, post your info for Dave, he needs to be able to make the best choice for his needs. This will help everyone of us that are looking to him for advice in the future, as their work will show up here is some form.
My girlfriend has a lot of the symptoms of bipolar disorder; from the high highs to the quick lows, problems with high self esteem, problems with organization and money, changing her mind on BIG ticket items shortly after the fact, poor business decisions (she broke up with me one week after we started a new business that she had been pushing me to start for a year), and a desire for indescriminate sex with total strangers – she is already writing love letters to a guy she has only met briefly twice. I cant seem to convince her that she needs help. She tells me as a health care proffesional and she would know when to seek help.
I have no idea if these comments are automatically put on site or individually moderated. I hope that somehow this gets on because this is meant as a explanation for an obivious miscommunication.
I want to start off with an apology to Mr.Oliver and the others that obviously subscribe to the theory that anyone who is ill can be labelled a crybaby.I specially typed into my search engine about “bipolar support”.I will again apologize because this group was the one that came up on my screen near the top, I read the blurp with it and thought it might be for me. Again I obviously made a huge mistake and apologize if I offended more than those that wrote.
For those who think I was just being a crybaby or whining Can be assured that you will not hear from me again.My feelings were really hurt because all I had done was add a comment at the box where “add a comment” was asked. Thought I had a thick skin but obviously it isn’t as thick as I thought.I won’t be returning to this site.
Those people can stop here if you think I am a crybaby, because it may evoke strong feelings and I will not purposely step on anyone’s toes.If I know I hit a sore spot I don’t do it again. I am very respectful.Hurt but respectful. So do yourself a favor and take the apology,and know that I won’t be back.For those who differ carry on.
I “need” some support group for my bipolar because yes, there are people that are more compassionate to the problems of other people than others. Just human nature. So I made sure that it was not just indicated as an information site, I had specifically typed in “bipolar support” group.It was a honest mistake.I checked again this morning in case I was wrong but got the same result as I thought I had. As I said I was careful with the “support” part because if you have very much contact with people with mental illnesses you know that we have to be very selective who we share our thoughts with, because if we aren’t it causes more harm that good.Just like if you have a sore back, mention it more than once and a lot of people think you are whining.Most of the time someone who has endured a bad back is very supportive.That is why I was careful.
Usually places that are on the internet “safe” because it is anonymous.If you talk to someone in person they have to listen to you.If you respond to a requested comment we operate under the assumption that if the person “doesn’t get it”they will just carry on,especially a moderator.Though adverse comments do not seem to affect Mr.Oliver, he is fortunate because a lot of people (not just those with mental illnesses) are sensitive to critiscm.I did not expect universal understanding but I didn’t expect to be slammed and it does hurt.
Again I apologize to anyone who happens to read this. I would suggest though that it is made clear in any ad for this site just what is expected of those that plan to actively participate in the discussions.
If a person feels that they have the need to vent they know that it will be in a safe place and should be referred elsewhere
Thankyou
I read daily news on bipolar centeral. I am a survior I have severe rapid cycle manic depression thus bi-polar disorder. It is important to know I became violent with out meds it can happen to you so please take meds all
Annie,
What kind of “huge mistake” did you make? Who is judging you or criticizing you? I don’t understand.
Of course this blog is moderated, but the only comments that aren’t allowed on are direct threats to David or other members, e.g. death threats.
Are people with terminal cancer considered whiners? My father died of cancer and hardly ever complained. But if he had have complained for the entire two years he was ill, he still would have died. So what is your point? My point is that if you have terminal cancer, you have earned the right to “whine” with the little time you have left!
hello David,
First off I want to thank you for your daily e-mails I always read them and the other day ordered one of your books. I also am bipolar2 diagnosed about 2 years ago by pdoc. For years was also misdiagnosed as depressed with anxiety disorder by my GP. I would also be interested in this job but would also like more info. I enjoy writing and research interests me also. I am not on disability am only working part time in sales but am considering disability option. Sorry to go on with my life story but if you care to reach me about the job e-mail is drozdr@sbcglobal.net
Dave,Thanks for the email today,I believe that we all could be cry babies if we allow ourself to be totally consumed with our problems and have a negitive attitude.
I think as a supporter, its important to try to help your love ones see the positive things in there life and to remind them that a positive attitude helps make things easier..If you go around all doom and gloom and focus only on your problems and issues yes its easy to be a cry baby,but to me part of the solution is to start counting the blessings you have and try having a positive attitude in dealing with our illness and issues.I as supporter I try to practice positive attitude with a thankful heart and I try to remind my love ones of that too.
But I think some times we all can get caught up to much with our problems then it may appear to be whinning or being a cry baby,the point is don’t focus on the problems daily, but count your many blessings daily it will make facing bipolar or any other problem a little easier.
Also Dave you said in Sundays email(I think,Jan.25th) that you were going to do some research on Schizophrenia,I hope you have been able to do that and I will be looking forward to any helpful thing you may have found.
Thank you so much for all the helpful imformation you always give us.
Hi David,
My husband Richard was just featured in your latest cd, “Richard, A Bipolar Success Story”. The interview was great and I hope, helpful to those who have been diagnosed with Bipolar and their loved ones. Richard is a published writer and would be a good fit for the position you listed. He has completed the job application to work for your company. His contact information is listed in his application. Thank you for all that you do to support those who have Bipolar and those of us who love and support them. I appreciate the timely responsiveness and proactive customer service extended by your company representatives. It is outstanding.
Dave: I enjoy reading your emails every day. It is unfortunate that some people seem to mis-understand you and what you are trying to accomplish. I believe your intentions are always noble and you are trying to jog people into trying to think about their situation. Keep up the good work. chuck L
You are still pushing the FRAUD of psychiatry.
People do not want their “medicine”.
As the “medicine” is the disorder.
I have had ZERO “medicine” for over 12 Months, my Family tells the Quacks I am MUCH better.
Yet Quacks want to give me a Court Treatment Order, for further DECERIBRATION! HOW would a Judge Know I nneeded my Mind Destroyed?
tThe only ones who spout “the drugs, psych. trade is good…” Are those profiting from the FRAUD!
As afformentioned, if the “Meds” did as we are told, not the exact opp. ALL would want to take them.
As they do the opp. of their claims, Lilly is in Court, for lieng.
They where called Tranquilizers… The first 1 was called: “The Lobotomy in a Pill.” Now with “advances” they can Deceribate…
To learn the TRUTH email me. Or go to CCHR.
Did I not invite you, & ALL to a Debate?
Little One?
More wasted time, as your Kind R too weak to publish the TRUTH!
If “meds” R so GOOD, why will NO Dr. Take them?
They refuse Chaemo, also, samme reason!!!!
WAKE UP DAVE!
I WILL END THIS FRAUDULENT TRADE, THEN YOU WILL HAVE TO GO BACK TO YOUR PROFESSION OF HUMPIN’ HOG SHIT!
Dave I will take not only the Job, but your whole company.
I have studied the unmentionable psych. organisms now for over 8 Years…..
Sorry my IQ has fallen from 190 to 133, not near 1/2 what I was, due to “medication.”
Prefessoes of psychiatry agree, the meds, cause the disorder, Medicaly induced Brain Damage…
Via polypharmacy, compleatly IATROGENIC.
is this why they say it takes 1 to have a disease, but 2 for a disorder?
I will help the people, I would love to help these, VICTUMS OF THE PSYCH. FRAUD.
I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE ALL PSYCH. IN A PEN IN THE DESERT, WITH PEADIFILES, THE “LAW” & GOV. FOR INDEFINATE TREATMENT.
PEOPLE WOULD BE ABLE TO SEGGEST TREATMENTS, CARRY THEM OUT THEIRSELVES….
WE WILL CURE THIS SCURGE!
WHAT DO YOU RECON DAVE?
I LIKE TO RESEARCH THE TRADE OF FRAUD. I KNOW FROM EXPERIENCE WITH THE DRUGS WHAT IS “TRADE TRUTH,” & ACTUAL FACT!
I AM THE MAN FOR THE JOB. AS I AM NOT ON MEDS, IF I WHERE I COULD NOT READ. POST MEDS I HAVE A COUPLE OF SYMPTOMS OF BP2, THE WOMANS VARIENT?
I HAD A GREAT LIFE, THEN I MET A PSYCHIATRIST, THEY DO NOT BELIEVE THE TRUTH.
THEN TO GET OUT YOU MUST AGREE, ON TAPE:
“I WAS VERY SICK…..I AM MUCH BETTER NOW…THANK YOU.” ALL LIES, PSYCH. DOES NOT CARE, FOR THAT BIT ON THE TAPE IS HER GUARENTEE TO $26K+ PER HOUR!
THEY DO NOT KNOW WHAT THE DRUGS DO, OR HOW THEY DO IT…. AS IT IS ALL GARBAGE, FRAUD. THEY KNOW THE DRUGS RUIN THE MIND, BOBY & SOUL. AS ALL DO! ALL WITH AN IQ ABOVE 15!
I KNOCKED BACK THE PENSION IN 2000. WHY ALL WHO SEE PSYCH. ARE DEEMED UNEMPLOYABLE? HOW IS THAT A BENIFIT TO THE NATION? THEY ARE NAUGHT BUT FILTH. 1 TOLD ME I WAS INSANE, PROFESSOR TOLD I AM NOT? I TOLD IT IF IT IS SANE I WILL GET TOTALY INSANE TATTOOED ON NY FOREHEAD. TATOOIST WOULD NOT DO IT?
dear david
hope your back will feel better soon. my mother in law has bi polar and some times it is tiring to be the one she wants by her side the whole time especially having a husband and two small kids to raise that is why i always listen to her and try and make her feel better but deep inside of me i am wondering if she realy understand what im tell her or saying, that is why i am taking part in this lesson of you to find out exactly what i can do for her because i can see she is starting to affect the peopel around us alot. thank u for the advice and dont worry about what others have to say you are talking from 1 hand experience.everybody makes spelling errors sometimes. kind regards mark and mariaan currin south- africa
Dear David;
I am a retired RN with personal and professional experience with bipolar illness. I am on disability and because of my OC nature edit naturally. I am also a published co-author of a bilingual citizenship program used by the L.A. achool system. Ialso am a research hound. If any of these fit your criteria for the open position, please advise me.
Thank you for your consideration and the constanct flow of information and sharing on our common cause.
constance
Hi David,
Thank you so much for your letters, they´re really a big help for my bipolar disorder, well, let me tell you, I´m bipolar and as you know it´s something very hard to live and deal with cause of the all constant changes in our mental activity and for our friends, coworkers even our families cause they don´t understand us the way we´d like to be understood. I was diagnosticated of bipolar disorder at the age of 18…Now I´m 29 and at first it was very difficult to get a good treatment until I found a good doctor. I´ve been taken Fluexetina, Prozac, Paxil and lately I´ve gone back to Fluexetina again wich is very helpful and makes feel better but being honest I´ve stopped the treatment many times for long periods and during those times I´ve tried to take control of my bipolar disorder by myself and I´ve been succesful in a way with the little help of doing exercises, working out, taking courses, always keeping myself active, etc. but last year unfortunately my boyfriend died and he was bipolar too so we really got along, we understood each other like none else, supported each other, etc. but he stopped taking his medicine and his mood went down so fast and one day he suddenly decided to go back to his hometown in Australia for the holidays and he spent the 2007 Christmas and New year´s eve with his family, they didn´t notice what was going on with him and they moved out to another house leaving all my boyfriend´s stuff in the family house, so when he got there he packed his things, went to live with his grandma and on January the 3rd, he committed suicide. I was devastated cause I know if he would have been with me I´m sure he would be ok, but things happened that way and I blamed to myself a lot for it so I got very depressed and I couldn´t get any better for almost the hold last year so I went back to Fluexetina again.
I´m getting better but it´s hard to move on particulary when you loved someone so much like I did and never stop loving him even if the loved one is not in this world anymore.
I remember there was a time a wanted to “join him”, you know what I mean, been with him in another dimension or wherever place he might be right now but thanks to God, my closed friends, my closed family who were very comprenhensive with me I stopped those bad thoughts and now I´m here writing this letter to you and I feel I´m not alone in the world with this bipolar thing and I know it is time to take off by myself and carry on, I know I can do it, I know bipolar disorder doesn´t have any cure but a life treatment yes, so I´d better continue with my medication and trying to fit myself in this world.
I try to see the bipolar disorder in a positive way like, as you know, many famous, talented and very intelligent people are or were bipolar so that gives me at least a big smile and I know I can be different from the others in a very good way if I want to.
Thank you again for your letters, you talk about bipolar disorder in our families with our relatives having it, in my particular situation my mother is bipolar too but she´s ok now, she also had her crisis but she´s very strong and most of the time keeps busy not having time to think of her bipolar thing and of course with the help of the right medication she´s doing ok.
Ok, David, this is my little story and what about you?, are you bipolar too?.
That Dicaprio interview was interesting, I´ve always known you can find happiness in the simple things of life no matter how rich, famous or popular you might be but that´s the real truth!!!.
Your truly friend,
Karla
You have an interesting approach to marketing your products. You write as though anyone receiving your emails already knows you. Different, but I have to admit, it grows on you. I haven’t been convinced to buy your products yet, buy may get there. I read all your incoming.
Anyway, I have two daughters, 22, and 28, who have just been diagnosed as being bipolar. How is it that they could have gotten to that age without my having known? My youngest was diagnosed as ADD, but it turns out she is not. If they misdiagnosed her for ADD, how do I know they haven’t misdiagnosed them as bipolar. Particularly since the youngest has never had a bipolar type event?
Thanks,
Nancy
Dave:
I am NOT a cry baby, yes I am rapid cycling bipolar. I don’t really talk about it. What makes me crazy is my supposed “support system” My family. We are very very different. My sister, who lives out of town sends me hateful emails. She’s been accusing me of things that are just not true, when I asked her to please tell me what I had done to warrant these comments, she refused to answer. She want’s to go to the therapist along with my Mother and other sister. They, tdoc and pdoc don’t think that is a good idea just yet. I have only been in treatment about 2 months. I told her that and she won’t drop it. My therapist said just tell her NO, which I did but she is now blaming me, which is funny because that’s what she’s been accusing me of. I never even see her and she never call’s unless she needs something. My point, sometimes those who are supposed to support you don’t want to do anything but keep you down and sick so they feel better about themselves. And believe me, I’m not crying. Just angry.
Hope your back is better. Try Yoga, I move furniture all the time in my design studio and pull my back out. Yoga works every time, not even an aspirin!
Dear Dave ,
I hope you’re pain free and back on schedule soon and that all of the injuries for your year are all out the way.
I don’t meet all the critera for your upcoming job .
I’d be interested in anything i would be able to help with voluntarily also that would give you someone to fall back on should any employees be going hangliding or iceskating ;).
I have had mental illness diagnoseses including bipolar for last 25 + years and recieve disability.
Thanks for all you doing to raise peoples awareness i think what you are doing is very valuable.
Best wishes
Ruth
Dave,
I find your information very interesting and very helpfull too the individuals that have bipolar disorder in my disability support group. I am disabled with a seizure disorder and began my own support group.
I also wanted too let you know that I am interested in the job you had mentioned in todays readings, the 28th of last month.
I used too work as a Medication aid in retirement settings and also did in home care for 6 years. I truly miss my 13 years helping the elderly and hope too find something else that I can do that can be just as rewarding.
Best wishes, Joyce
Stayton, Oregon