H.elp Wanted and Surprising Bipolar Lesson From Odd Person


How’s it going?

I hope you are doing well.

I wanted to remind everyone I am looking for TWO good positions to be filled at bipolarcentral.com

You can see the details below.

These are h.omebased PART TIME positions. One is for admin and the other is for customer service.

It really concerns me that some people have questions that are clearly on the job description page. Anyway, you can see the positions here: http://www.bipolarcentral.com/careers/

You will indicate the hourly rate you want. BUT, I am looking for VERY good people. Not people who want to make a few bucks and don’t want to take either job seriously. GOOD QUALIFIED people with can do what they say when they say it without 1000 different excuses.

At bipolarcentral.com we can NOT afford to hire anyone who is not serious, dedicated and hardworking.

As it stands now, I am working 7 days a week as a result of someone failing to do a lot tasks. It’s placed a TREMENDOUS burden on me. When things have to get done, and there is no one or someone decides to drop the ball, so to speak, it ends up with me having to do it.

As a result of this type of stuff, I have had a horrible last week.

But it will get better. I know there are qualified, serious, and hardworking people on my list. These positions are so seriously actually that we are marketing them all over the place. They are on dozens of different sites and being marketed to vocational rehabilitation centers across the US.

We are looking for great people. Someone asked me if we are looking for any new writers. We will be soon. But we want writers that can keep deadlines without long stories and many excuses. It’s really sad but some people who w.ork from home do NOT take it seriously. It’s like a hobby or joke to them. It’s really annoying to other people on a team when this happens.

It takes a lot to keep bipolarcentral.com running AND progressing. We just don’t want to stay where we are but we always want to move forward. This is why we are searching for new people.

Again, to see the positions currently available visit:



Okay, I wanted to tell you about my friend who does strongman competitions and the GREAT bipolar lesson you can take away.

What are strongman competitions*? A typical strongman competition consists of six events. The first three events are used to qualify eight finalists for the last three events. There are about fifteen different events established so far.

The promoter of a particular competition chooses from among these. Many of these events are adopted from traditional, centuries old contests like Scottish Highland Games and the Basque contests in Spain. Variations of regular powerlifts are used to test pure strength.

Some of the most common events are:

Farmer’s Walk, Car Walk, Loading, McGlashen Stones Truck Pulling, Log-Press / Stone-Press, Hercules Hold, Stone Lift, Log Throw / Caber toss, Weight throw, Tug of War, Pole Pushing, Crucifix and Car Rolling

About 2.5 years ago my friend decided he wanted to compete in these.

I was kind of strange to me. The events are really odd. Something I would not be into.

I used to power lift years ago but not any longer. I only body build non-competitively.

Anyway, so my friend signed up for his first contest.

His entire family went, including me.

So we went there and my friend who is SUPER strong, I mean really strong, went through the entire competition.

Guess what happened?

Take a wild guess! Then scroll down for the rest of the story….



He got destroyed. He didn’t do well at all. Despite being really strong and a good athlete he got destroyed!

It was amazing. I couldn’t believe it myself.

He was really bummed out. I immediately saw the problem because of my consulting background and my background with mental health, especially bipolar disorder.

Guess what he didn’t have that you need for bipolar disorder in order to manage it?

Take a guess and then scroll..


He didn’t have a system. That was the problem. I noticed the people who won had systems. What kind of systems?

How to get there and what time (most go there the day before, my friend got there the day of the event…hmmm) What to eat before the competition What to drink and eat during the competition Ways to keep cool How to conserve your energy for all the events

People had special coolers, food, special seats, tents, cooling devices, supplements, special food and drinks.

You could tell that the people who won had a plan and a system. It was kind of amazing.

My friend didn’t pick up on this.

NOTE-They also had great technique. To be a successful person in these competitions requires some amount of strength but way more technique. Usually the smaller guys beat the bigger guys because they had better technique. Some smaller guys made winning look effortless.

Anyway, so I told my friend to ask everyone lots of questions about what they did.

He did.

Fast forward 2.5 years.

Over this past weekend, my friend did EXTREMELY well. He is on track to be a major champion.

He has come a long way. He did very well. He took 3rd, which is incredible, and just missed 2nd.

I asked him, “What was the key?”

He said, “I remember 2 years ago you told me about systems and that’s what made the difference. I now have a system to win. I know how to eat, what to do and when to do it.”

When he told me that, I immediately thought of bipolar disorder.

In my courses/systems below:










I talk over and over again about the importance of systems.

They are super important. Something that you Can’t just fly by the seat of your pants and do well helping a loved one with bipolar disorder or managing the disorder yourself. I don’t believe this is the case at all.


It’s important to note that you will have like a master plan and sub-plans that go along to helping you with your master plan.

For example if you are a super, your master plan is to help your loved one become stable, productive and be able to work.

Your sub-plan may be, getting your loved one into the “5 percenter club,” finding a job your loved one can do from home and also making sure your loved one takes his/her medication.

You will have 3 plans that lead to your 3 objectives that make up your master plan. Make sense? I hope so. What do you think? I have to go to the gym. I am already tired and the day didn’t even really start. I only got 4 hour of sleep. NO I don’t have bipolar disorder J. Yes I know getting 4 hours of sleep is not good. YES I am looking to change this to getting 8 hours of sleep like normal people J That’s why I am hiring two more GOOD people J


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  1. David, thanks for doing 7 day job and not give up. Stay committed every one need you
    Louise Phillips. I d like to work for you but i am in South Africa and recovering after 2 hipoperations. You are an insperation to me,

  2. I agree that you have to be prepared for whatever when dealing with Bi-po, you have to your head straight and do whatever is necessary. Now I am going to tell a story about something that happened on July 5th that I had no idea could ever happen, as this was the 1st time. My daughter had a Grand Mal seizure (please keep in mind that I am highly skilled in the medical field) and I lost it. I saw her hit the range with her head so hard that I thought she may have broken her neck. My medical training went out the window, I was hysterical and in a manic episode in mere seconds. I didn’t have my wits about me enough to call 911. My husband had to tell me to do so. I heard my one and only child breath what is commonly called the death rattle. I saw her hit the oven handle and I got up from my seat so fast that my blood pressure dropped too fast and I hit the floor. I crawled the rest of the way to her, begging her to come back to me. She had knocked herself out, but I didn’t realize that. And my husband was holding her so she wasn’t having the jerky movements of a seizure and I didn’t know that either. All I knew at that time was the severe pain people suffer when they lose a child as I thought my daughter was surely going to die. Now I am prepared and I watch her like a hawk to look for signs of an impending seizure. I have helped others who were having seizures so I know what to do. Soon she will get the neurological testing required to diagnose what caused the seizure. I learned a lot of things that day. This can be applied to being prepared for Bi-po episodes too. If you are not prepared you will be as worthless to your loved one as I was for my daughter, who is Bi-po 1 and some of the meds she takes also prevent seizures. So you see there was no way I could have seen the seizure coming and when it did happen I was worthless to my own daughter, where if it had been a stranger, I would have kept my wits about me and would have been able to help them. Knowledge is key for survival, but you have to remain calm enough to apply your knowledge or it did you know good to acquire it. Another thing I learned that day is not to go to the closest hospital for treatment, especially on a holiday weekend, as we had to wait 7 hours for her to be seen by a Dr and that was because she threatened to leave without treatment. Then they got a Dr. in there who ordered a CT scan, which should have been done right away. I asked them since when is head trauma not an emergency and got no response!

  3. You’re going to think me totally cynical David but hey! You’ve got to use a different analogy rather than sport and esp. not body building. You must be able to think of a few. Why? Sports are fraught with bad examples. You see, there are a few competitive body builders I know in the UK and they have a system – steroids!

    I really don’t mean to be cynical but some of these guys are really clever at disguising the sh.#t they take to enhance their performance. I’m not saying that’s why your friend lost but I’d not even raise an eyebrow if that was found to be the cause of your friend’s defeat because it’s not rare in body building or lifting weights – at least it isn’t this side of The Pond. (One famous lifter I know in the sport got too friendly with a guy who dealt in steroids and nearly got killed for being with him when his buddy was snuffed out on behalf of a rival dealer. But I digress.)

    Of course, that kind of self-medication can kill the athlete, and it does do that for quite a few, not to mention lose them Olympic medals. (Yeah, watch out for the athletes in China – there’ll be some caught with steroids or some such drug in their blood; mark my words.) And I don’t just mean they can die by getting shot!

    So, here is my BP “lesson” of the day – don’t self medicate like some of those athletes because it will screw up the good effects of your proper medication, and just for some of those athletes, it could kill you.

  4. Hi Dave:

    I submitted the paper work for the positions you have available yesterday – along with all the criteria, and some examples of work.

    Any idea of how long before I might receive feedback? I’m very serious, and dedicated about this. Bi-Polar tendencies of my oldest child affect not only her life, but those around her as well…so, I’m not looking for a quick buck in this.

    I realize you are working around the clock – but help is a phone call away, if you are interested.


  5. Went to view the application for customer rep but no documents downloaded.
    Tried 3 times. I am not sure if it is my Firefox download program with errors or if your site is not up full in service to view those documents but again I had nothing come through.

    Cindy Stiner

  6. What do they mean by being on the edge of bipolar or on the cusp of bipolar?

  7. Hi.
    I had one week vacantion (last week, at home) and I spent it with my F.REE friends…

    About that two jobs:
    I’m an employee, I work as designer (actually mech. engineer – just to understand) and NOT in US; I’m not suited but I like the ideea.
    We use CV and interviews, it’s a little strange what you asked. Is it another lesson?
    I’d like to help you; maybe another way.

    Another: you can sleep only 4 hours/day only if you are in that good phase of bipolar disorder…

    Day’s topic: I agree with you about system and plan; it’s clear.


  8. Hi.
    Me again.
    Excuse me for words “free friends”. I didn’t used it in a bad sense.

  9. Don’t have a lot to say, other than I am glad you have had the common sense to share with us what you know you should do and the reasons why you haven’t been able to get that done.
    It is a bothersome thing when you have more work to do than you are able, know that you need help and don’t have it when you would like to have it.

    I am in recovery from surgery and know that I need to be careful with what I am able to do. It’s almost too easy to do more than I should and that’s the misconception that I can do more than I should at this stage of the game in the healing process. So I hope that for your needs that two very qualified people will be able to assist you in your work, and able to keep up with the kind of work that is best needed to be done. The fact that a system is used is evident by anyone who is accomplished in the skills that they use. Some are hard workers and others can’t afford to work as hard as they would like to be able to do. Health factors are a reason at times for this. Not as an excuse.

  10. I, in my right mind, have decided how, when and where. I know I can’t continue. The odds are against me. I know I can pull it off, this time. I have the means and the will to do it. Finally. I can’t cope any longer. And, I don’t want to try. I am giving it up. Wish me luck. Thanks, you all have been so wonderful.

    Thanks Sandie…best to the three stooges. (or are there four?) Best to all the Mankoffs, wish I could see them at the next reunion, but I don’t think they really want to see me, do they? I know they don’t.

    Thanks to Jill. You are the only one who understands and cares. I hope things get better for you.

    Bye all, have a good life.

  11. Suzanne, and moderators, please remove my post above. It is not appropriate for this website.

    I am sorry if anyone was hurt of offended. If this post remains, please don’t be upset. It is something I have to do to end my pain. We all have a breaking point, and please understand that I’ve reached mine.

    I am glad that I was able to read your emails. You are all a great group of people…both survivors and supporters.

    I wish you all the best.

  12. to Tried them all………. how dare you threaten to hurt people like that? My sister committed suicide 9 years ago.. you have no right to hurt your family like that. Get on the right meds and talk to ME! OMG… your life is so worth more than what you think!!!! I wasn’t able to help my sister.. she gave us no warning.. but you are so worth more than what you think!!
    … frustrated.. and Dave, I could give a couple of evenings to your site

  13. I totally agree that you have to be able to handle your situaion and have a plan. Just this week I thought I had life figured out so I could try and get on track and the same day my world dumped a double load on my head which I’ve not been able to cope with. I wked part time being a caregiver 2 days a wk for one lady and finally I couldn’t take someone relying on me so much anymore so I decided to take off for awhile. The same day my friend gave me news of a job I’ve kinda wished for the past 3-4 yrs a preschool assistant teacher at my kids school right in walking distance of my home. She dosen’t know all my problems but she knows I’m good with kids, and referred my to the boss, and I know I would get the job for sure if I wanted. I have suffered greatly and gone into some deeper depression this week thinking should I or not, so if just thinking causes me trouble I probably couldn’t handle all the responsibilities of the job. I don’t have a system or plan. I don’t even know if I’m on the right meds. Then I have guilt for not taking it and alot of what ifs. I would love to have a job I could work from home. I always feel the need to feel important. I wouldn’t even mind having a job sharing my daily stories or listening to someone who needs to talk.

  14. Dear “Tried them all”:

    Boy, do I know how you feel. A few weeks ago I was feeling exactly the same way you are feeling now. I was consumed with thoughts of suicide, and truly believed that it was the right thing to do. I had the means and a plan. I was so depressed, and had been for such a long time, that I couldn’t take the pain anymore. There were a couple of situations in my life (mostly dealing with relationships) that were torturing me and I didn’t believe that those problems could ever be resolved. I looked back on my life as a whole and saw only failure (I can’t work and am on disability, I had 3 marriages and 3 divorces, there were many times that I had behaved in ways that made me feel deeply ashamed). I had people who loved me, but in my mind they would be better off without me. I wasn’t functioning well at all – I stayed in my pajamas all the time, never left the house, hadn’t had a shower in 2 months, couldn’t clean the house (and didn’t care) – I absolutely wasn’t doing anything. I was even finding it difficult to concentrate on a TV program because the thoughts of suicide were distracting me all the time. I have financial problems. My only lifeline was the computer. I had a very good psychiatrist, I was taking my meds as prescribed, and I was in therapy. Nothing seemed to be helping – I was just getting worse. I decided that the best part of my life was behind me, and that I had nothing to look forward to in the future except for more failure and more pain.

    And then, within the period of a few days, before the time when I intended to carry out my plan (I had chosen a date), I started to recover from my depression. Nothing had changed in my life, but my outlook had changed. I really don’t know why… My best guess is that my brain chemistry started to change. I’m sure you know that depression IS self-limiting – it can last for a long, long time, but it will eventually pass. When my depression started to dissipate, my whole outlook changed. No longer did my life seem like a failure. I still had some relationship issues, but they didn’t bother me nearly as much. My energy level increased, I was able to sleep better (and without nightmares), I was no longer preoccupied with thoughts of wanting to be dead, and I started to be able to enjoy some of the little things. I started to be able to function again. I was totally amazed; I couldn’t even understand why I had been thinking of suicide – no longer did I want to be dead.

    I don’t know what’s going on in your life. Maybe you have suffered some major loss, like a divorce, breakup of a relationship, death of a loved one, maybe you’re in a financial crisis. Maybe you’re feeling really alone.
    I don’t know – everyone is different. This disease we have is nasty – it changes our thinking and our emotions, along with it, and we cannot see things clearly. Sometimes there’s really nothing “wrong” with your life circumstances, but for some reason they haven’t been able to pinpoint, depression can descend upon you out of the blue. You may have some problems that seem insurmountable. You’re just tired of feeling this way.

    I’m concerned because you say you have “the means and the will”. This is not just vague suicidal thinking, it is serious and dangerous suicidal intent. I worked as a psychiatric RN for 10 years (that’s irony for you – but, believe it or not, I was good at what I did). The thing is, I know that there’s nothing in the world I can do or say that can change your mind if you’re determined to end your own life. I don’t know your name, where you live, who your Dr. is. If I did, I would try to intervene, because I know that suicide is tragic and unneccesary. I know you won’t believe me, but your depression will pass. You will view things differently.
    Whatever problems you’re dealing with can have solutions; maybe a change in meds would help, or maybe you could work things through with your therapist. I know you can’t right now, because it’s very hard for anyone to get through to you. But – I’m sure you’ve heard this – suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem. If you could just somehow
    “hang in there” and keep yourself alive, this “rational” decisiion you think you’re making now will become obviously irrational.

    If you’re determined to kill yourself, nothing can be done to stop you. But I’m pleading with you to do something to keep yourself safe right now until you’re feeling better. Put it off – you can kill yourself anytime. If you have a good relationship with either your Dr. or your therapist, please call them and tell them how desperate you are feeling. If not, call the Suicide Hotline (number is in the phone book, or the Operator can connect you).
    Call 911 and tell them that you need to go to the ER because you’re not feeling safe right now. At the very least, call a good friend or a relative and tell them that you’re not safe being alone right now and need them to come and stay with you (someone needs to be with you full-time until you are feeling better). Try not to think too much – simplify it and just realize that you aren’t safe, and make a plan of someway to keep yourself safe.
    Someday you’ll be glad you did.

    Or you’ll leave this earth and never have a chance to feel better.

    You say you’re in your “right mind”, but I can tell you with certainty that you’re not. Your emotions and your thoughts are distorted by a disease and by really screwed up brain chemistry.

    Please don’t take any action – it would be so tragic and so unnecessary. I don’t know you, but I understand depression and suicidal thinking, and I know that you are a valuable person (we all are), even if you don’t think so right now. How awful it would be if you died when you don’t have to.
    Really, I promise you, you will not always feel this way.

    I’m glad that your post came through, but I feel a little bit helpless as far as helping you right now. Please give some consideration to some of the things I have said, and if you’d like to, you can feel free to e-mail me:
    At least I can “listen”, and I’m very willing to do that.

    Just PLEASE don’t do anything now that you can’t “take back”. Suicide is a permanent thing. Once it’s done, it’s done. I’m still alive, and you can stay alive, too. I know that there is good in your life that you can’t see right now.

    I’ll be up ’til at least midnight, and I’ll keep checking my e-mails in case you want to contact me.

    Please, please, keep yourself safe. You don’t HAVE to do this…

    With love and concern, Sue

  15. To tried them all. We all know that you are tired and that this illness can be so very painfull but don’t give up please. you have way to much to live for and alot of people love you, and most of God loves you and accepts you the way you are…. Go to him and tell God how you are feeling and remember this bad feeling you are having now, shall pass….all of our strength comes from the Lord and when we are running low on strength and we feel like we can’t go on no more , go to God in pray and ask him to give you the strength and the right people to help you get thru what you are feeling…..I always just say the serenity prayer over and over until I get peace about my feelings…….The serenity prayer is ….God grant me the serenity to accept the things I can not change, the courage to change the things I can. and the wisdom to know the differance.
    just give yourself more time and don’t give up.

  16. Dear Tried them All:

    Please reconsider before taking your own life and leaving your family, loved ones and friends behind to mourn your loss. No matter what you may think right now, there ARE people who care about you in this world, and it just isn’t fair to abandon them in such a terrible, final way. You also owe it to YOURSELF to stay alive just to find out that things will get better. Yes, I understand, you have obviously hit your “rock bottom” and require an intervention of some sort immediately!! Please dial 911 and tell them you are in danger of ending your life, and someone will come and get you. Go to the hospital and get the medication you require. It will pull you out of this intense misery for now, until you get some emergency counselling or other professional help. I wish you all the best. I don’t personally know you, but I DO NOT want you to die! Please let us know that you are oK. A LOT of us are truly worried about you.

  17. IMPORTANT NOTE to TRIED THEM ALL: Even though life may SUCK right now, it sure beats the crap out of the absolute black hole of nothingness that is DEATH. Suicide is a BAD example of hindsight being 20/20!! Once you’re gone, there’s no chance for second thoughts.

    A lot of times when one suffers from bipolar (as I do myself), life DOES seem like it totally sucks. Some days worse than others, but if you have reached a point where you actually don’t want to go on another day…please get some help by calling 911 or a suicide prevention hotline BEFORE you do anything rash! I do care.

  18. Thanks for all your thoughts. But, really, I have carefully thought this through. I’ve called 911, I’ve been to hospitals, I’ve tried psychiatrists, psycologists, counselors, social workers, RN’s, psych nurses…all of it. I have been there and I have done that. I’ve tried all the meds, too. There really is nothing left but….ECT…and no thanks! The fact of the matter is, no one really knows how to help. They are trained, but they really don’t know what they are trained to do. The ‘therapies’ are a major waste of time and money. I’ve used up all my mental health care benefits for the year, so I know what I am talking about. I am on the other side, saying nothing works.

    I have tried them all. And here I am. I am in a much worse place.

  19. Dear Tried Them All:

    I am asking you–please don’t do this. There was a movie I watched once where a woman was ina Nazi camp and she was so much in a very bad place and time. Another woman told her “Please don’t kill yourself or you will never find out what happened to you!”

    You will never find out what tomorrow may bring.

    Thank you for living. Please write to me as what yoour decision is–I will pray you no matter what.


  20. Dear Tried Them All
    I am not a Dr, I do not have all the answers. I don’t believe in promissing a better tomorrow although I do believe they come. Nothing will get better or be fixed over night. I don’t know nor will I presume to know what kind of pain you are going through. I know what it feels like to feel there is no hope. I know what it feels like to be locked and beaten and left in a pool of your own blood knowing that the end would be so much easier. I know all the pain I have watched my son endure and the many times I have just sat for days holding him through his hours of thoughts like yours. I know what it is like to have those thoughts and have no one to hold you or talk to or listen to you. I know how hard it is sometimes just to find the courage to take that next breath. And I can tell you honestly sometimes it is so worth it and sometimes I’m not sure. But in the end it is.

    I believe that we are all here for a reason, that we all go through what we do for some reason, crazy as it sounds and cruel as it sounds. There is something there that you are going through right now that is giving you strength to cope with something that will come, maybe not even in your life but in someone you haven’t even met yet’s life. Even hopelessness and depare build a strenght and understanding that many do not know or have. Maybe this is your trial right now so that someday you will be the one to answer someone elses cry in the darkness.

    Even if your last friend or family member turns from you, you will find new and buld new better and stronger ties. Sometimes blood ties do not make up your family but the people you find or that find you and come into your life in unexpected ways become closer and more family than conjoined twins. I have an amazingly huge family and most of us are not related.

    I believe you are very much at the end of your rope and are very serious about your intent. But I also believe you are still seeking an alternate answer. You have called out and so many have answered. Can you see how much you affect those who do not even know your name. Can you see the chain you have already started by being the first in its link. What will you choose to do with your chain? Will you drop the end and break it apart or will you close it and make a strong circle and accept the love and support it offers you. That circle gives you shelter and support when you are weak by placing you in the middle of it’s protected walls and when you are strong enough you add strength to it for someone else when they need to be in the middle. It is neverending, it is complete.

    If you want to know a positive out come for this, I can tell you one right now. Other people that read this entire blog from your initial post to what ever the end one turns out to be are learning that even strangers from out of no where would come forth to offer comfort to someone they don’t even know the name of. Even strangers would share your pain with you and try to help you through it. Which means even strangers would be there for them too if they needed help.

    YOU… you are cared for, you are important. You are important to me personally, your life has meaning and merit, even if you have not discovered your full pupose yet. I hope you will choose life. I am available if you ever want to talk. I will include my e-mail address, it is Upstormsdream@aol.com and if you choose to use it I will give you my phone number if you want a voice. I will definately be praying for you and thinking of you.

    God be with you

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