Hi,
Hope your day is going really, really well.
First Happy Labor Day to everyone who celebrates Labor Day.
Wikipedia writes that “Labor Day is a United States federal holiday observed on the first Monday in September. The holiday originated in 1882 as the Central Labor Union (of New York City) sought to create “a day off for the working citizens” just in case you were out of the United States and wondering.
Like I said yesterday I was hiking. People were asking where and how far. I went to upstate New York and New Jersey.
The trail was super difficult. I mean really difficult. It was over 10 miles. I got lost so many times. There were people that I met in the middle of the woods totally lost. I couldn’t even help because I barely knew where I was going.
Some ran out of water. I did towards the end as well. NONE of us knew how hard and long it was going to be. It was amazing.
I actually fell and hurt my leg as well so I am limping today. I might have to go to the doctor tomorrow if it doesn’t get better. I am heading off to the gym because I have a rule that if I am going to skip the gym I have to at least go there and sit on on piece of equipment.
I am probably going to do an upper body machine today.
Oh one more thing. I met a person in the woods that was a scientist that said he had a friend that was a top researcher for bipolar and schizophrenia. I am going to be emailing him to try to setup an interview. Pretty interesting? Never know who you will meet huh?
Okay enough of the updates on me.
I am an outdoors person so I see out a lot of stuff in nature.
Yesterday I saw a bunch of roses while I was hiking.
Someone sent me an email about a rose and it’s a great lesson for bipolar disorder.
Take a look at this poem that someone sent me:
Life is like a rose.
In order to partake of its beauty You must also suffer the pain of Its thorns
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Now, that may be a good statement about life in general, but I’ll tell you what it has to do with bipolar disorder.
So let’s talk about what it says, and how it does relate to bipolar disorder.
We’d all like our loved one’s bipolar disorder to go along without a hitch.
We’d love it if they were medication complaint, stuck with their treatment plan, had no more episodes, always saw their doctors, therapists, etc., without complaining…
We’d love it if they would always take care of themselves (so we wouldn’t have to), stick to a good diet (and never cheat), exercise (and not get lazy), and sleep right (never staying up too late to watch those late movies or TV shows).
We’d love it if we had a stress-free life as a supporter of a loved one with bipolar disorder. Yes, we’d love those things.
But that’s not reality, is it?
The reality is like what the author wrote about the rose.
You have to take the bad with the good.
A rose is very beautiful. But it also has its thorns.
Just like bipolar disorder. It has its good days. But it also has its bad days too, doesn’t it?
In my courses/systems below, I don’t just talk about the good parts of bipolar disorder – I tell you how to deal with the bad things, too – about how to deal with episodes, and even how to deal with what happens after episodes:
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What a beautiful life it would be if we didn’thave to deal with bipolar disorder…
NOT TRUE!
We’d still have to deal with life itself.
And, like the poem, which was NOT about bipolar disorder, by the way, it was about LIFE…
No life is perfect. You’d still have to deal with many of the same problems you’re having to deal with that you are now with your loved one’s bipolar disorder.
So what I’m trying to say is…
Don’t feel sorry for yourself when times get bad, because they would get bad sometimes with or without having to deal with bipolar disorder in your life.
That’s just life itself.
Learn from the Lesson of the Rose.
Kind of interesting huh? I get a lot of great things sent to me because there is so many smart people on my list.
Many people incorrectly think my list is full of “crazy people.” I have several very large mailing lists and by far, the smartest people are on my bipolar list.
Which brings up another topic for another day which is how smart people with bipolar disorder really are.
Hey I have to run. I am heading off to a friend’s house today. Catch you tomorrow. If you are taking the day off, have a great one.
Oh, what did you think of that poem?
Oh, I am going to try to get some of my hiking photos posted for you to see.
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Have a great day David, thanks.
That was a beautiful comparison. My name is Roza and my partner is bi-polar. Many days I feel like I live in a volcano, never know when she will erupt. I don’t like it very much, and we have sought a therapist, and have learned a lot from her about bi-polar disordr.
I get frustrated a lot and want to call it quits, and just then my partner gets back on track and tells me she will change. The beauty of the rose comes out. I have my thorns also, but they are in control.
Even before any of were diagnosed with Bipolar or felt that something wasn’t quite right, we all had our bad days, good days and days we wish we could go back to bed and start over.
I had a really nasty fight with my husband last night – words were said that he wishes he could take back. My husband does not have Bipolar. for the most part I wouldn’t trade my husband for any one. Most of the time he is kind, loving, supportive and a great all around guy. He has his “thorns” just like I do – some have to do with Bipolar and some don’t.
What people tend to forget is that like the thorn – BiPolar is just PART of who we are. Dave, what you were saying about people with Bipolar seeming to be intelligent, maybe it is nature’s way of compensating. Just like people who are blind hear better or those with hearing difficulties see better.
There was an article in The Times of India recently, a paper with a huge circulation here like the New York Times, that said that mental illnesses developed as a way for people to get what they needed. People with anxiety were cared for more. People with hallucinations were treated as holy men/women. It went on to give several more instances of how mental illnesses made our ancestors cared for better than people with no problems. As a result they were the successful ones when it came to having children, having enough to eat or a roof over their. Since I have a background in cultural anthropology I got to thinking about it. It makes a LOT of sense to me.
Think about it – as parents don’t we do more for our children when they are young than when they are older? They are not as dependent on us. If we are dependent on some one, we get better care. As a result we would have been able to be more successful. Anyways, I just thought it was interesting article about why mental illnesses developed in groups of people.
Dave ,I just wanted you to know that I really enjoyed todays email.
It is so true and to me a very positive way of looking at things.
Even the best laid plans can go awry in a heart beat, even the Master of Planners, you David Oliver can have your plans upset because there are too many outside influences to be able to carry every plan no matter how much you map it out! You met several people on your hike that were totally lost and I would bet they hadn’t planned on getting lost! Have a nice holiday!
I have been diagnosed with Bipolar Disorder as well as Temporal Lobe Epilepsy. How long does it take for medication to begin working? Having the two disorders I never seem to know which one triggered which attack, I seem to find that such an attack can last over a week then the after effects start happening, this alone can last up to a week itself. How does one read up on these disorders and remembering what was read?
Good Morning David,
Thanks again for the e-mail this morning about the rose,
I enjoyed reading that, what a message there.
Oh I have to tell you yesterday our grandson and his Mom and
Dad and my husband and I went golfing, had a wonderful time,
18 holes, our grandson is doing so wonderful, Praise the Lord.
When you send the pictures please let me know how to get to
see them, sounds like you had a great day.
God Bless you
Dear Dave,
Thanks for the Labor Day email. A great thing to think about.
Do you know of a way to stop obsessing over a loss? A friend, Loved one, etc?
Sincerely,
Fredrich
I Praise God for you Dave, I was seeing a man with BP. I broke up before I knew he was. That has been the greatest regret of my life. I always pray our relationship is restored. I hurt him when I told him I couldn’t see him anymore. Since we broke up I found your sight. You have given me a great understanding of the illness. And the encouragement you give just keeps me going. My eyes have been opened wide. The story of the rose, is just that, life. It doesn’ t matter what journey your walking, life happens. Savor the moments of the beautiful and let go of the thorns. If you don’t the thorns will rip you apart. I broke up with him because I fell in love with him. He told me not to get attached but yet he kept pouring into me. I crossed his boundary and I didn’t know what to do. It has been two years now, and I am still in love with him. Will he ever come back? He says were not logical and truthfully were not. But matters of the heart aren’t logical. Have a great day.
it could not be better put… you have to accept the beauty along with the thorns. this is a perfect description of bi-polar.
as a supporter, you want to help and be there for your loved one, but there are times when you just get tired and weak (physically and emotionally). what does the supporter do then? who supports the supporter. i think the supporter can say do things that they regret b/c of their weakened state.
when a loved one stops taking their medications, stops seeing their doctor(s) and has an episode and walks out of a realtionship, does it mean this is the condition or is this what they really want? i have a very difficult time understanding where the person stops and the condition takes over.
i do not want to give up on a relationship, but how long do you give someone to fix things by going back on their medication, seeing their doctor and getting off of the street drugs and alcohol?
any advice???
todd
Goode Morning, David.
I appreciated your parable on the rose. I am coming through a manic episode concerning a credit card I used of my Dad’s. My husband wanted to hospitalize me on the spot! He called my psychiatrist and moved my regularly scheduled appointment up about 2 days sooner. I thinke sometimes he sees more of my bipolar and less of me. I keep telling him I am more than my bipolarism.
He has physcial problems that disabling and I could easily see him through the veil of his disabilities; but I do not do that. I thinke ……I believe………that when a person is diagnosed with a mental disorder that disorder seems to surround and hide that person’s entire personality because it is filtered through the mental disorder the person is diagnosed as having. Makes it difficult. More difficult than it needes to be.
At any rate, your poem about the rose came right on time. I needed to hear those words. I see my psychiatrist this week where we will work on my last manic episode. Which is the first one I have had in a long time. Thank you for the email and especially for the parable/poem about the rose.
Blessings
Ammi
i loved the poem i know even if i did not have this disorder that i would still be suffering from other problems and i wanted to thank u for the emails they do help me i do not have anyone who understands enough about this disorder or and they just try to pretend it does not exist like they are ashamed so thank u for your emails again i wish there were more people like u
Dave,
I’ve been a member of your list for about a month now, and was skeptical at first, but I find that I really appreciate your daily updates and a fresh perspective on BP. I was first diagnosed (that one was a misdiagnosis of schizophrenia- but it was later corrected) in my late teens- am now 33, more or less stable (on meds!), engaged, a home owner, world traveler, published poet, and a Phd candidate. This is after multiple hospitalizations, and a dr who told me that I would never live independently, and would probably be a group home the rest of life.
So there is hope!
But the main reason I wanted to write to you today is I was curious about your hike. I moved to NJ (from Oregon) last year- and hated it. Went manic last spring, partially as a result. It was a nightmare. So, I’ve moved again- this time to western PA- it has a more laid-back atmosphere and a social climate that is easier for me to relate to. But, I’m still close to upstate Jersey, and really enjoy intense hikes like the one you went on. Any chance you’d share your secret spot? 🙂
Thanks for everything you do for this community. I’d like to get my fiance (my supporter) on your list- I think he might find it helpful, as well!
Kate
It’s my thinking that every living thing has resources for self-protection,ergo beautiful roses have thorns.
My boyfriend has a daughter who is bipolar. Since I’ve been here, she has not had an episode. In fact, motivation is her problem. She will do nothing unless she gets prompted by her father or for a few moments decides to do some dishes or throw in a load of laundry.
I understand her condition more and more, yet I still silently get exasperated and pout, because I feel like I”m caring for a helpless child or am doing maid duty on top of my job. I feel bad about how I feel in this way, but it does in fact creep in…..even with knowledge.
My pout was yesterday, but today, I”m regretting it and will be happy.
Besides, this is Labor Day…….so I”ll go do some labor of love. Gardening.
Thank YOU for the reminder……I need to walk.
Have a Great Day Everyone!!
Kathryn 🙂
Hey everyone here under Dave´s support and guide. Often, though I´m a pediatrician I´d found myself so unhappy for havind married a Good husband with a family with a “Bipolar trait”. Fact I ignored until I read Dave´s newsletters by a chance of Internet.Had I felt so bad comparing all the unhappines I felt throughtout so many years.Everyone of my friends seemed to do so well but me. Except something I always took for grant.No life threatning desease up to now in my relatives.Just minor and other times serious inconveniences of financial sort, being tolerant facing what this brings, etc. Then, in the last two years, let´s say 6 out of 10 of my references of very lucky friends and relatives have been facing situations like sour divorces, children with tumors, cancer, and “Real disgraces alike”- Not that it is something to, from galaxies away, be a comfort to my situation, God forbids if it passes my unconscious-. Just to share with all of you that my thorn last week was that the most beautifull, and up to then luckiest, getting good grades, the best scholarships, and sometimes things I worked hard and my own children too without a chance. That loved and admired nice,daughter of my favorite cousin; overnight, like a fatal nightmare, has opened her first episode of multiple sclerosis. How many dreams broken in just 3 days, how many sweet dreams, how many plans gone far away.Each one of us keeps asking …why she ? Now I know what big thorns are, I make sure to touch them, to feel how much they hurt.So much the bipolar´s thorns turned out to be the Roses Dave gave us today. Honestly I confess feeling mellow in hell, I find myself repeating Sinatra´s line: “that´s life “. Only there is no music this time. But lots of love to be share, and a huge comitment for the whole family.
dear dave, your daily notes have been enlightening. i love a man with b/p no meds constant rapid cycling. its so difficult and stil worth it.
these days its hard to find the positive. i have to admit this made so much sense.it really is what lifes all about
Dear Dave,
I sincerely enjoy your writing about bipolar disorder everyday of my life. I have been diagnosed with the bipolar illness at the age of 22 in November of 1996. Every since then, my life had been on a rollercoaster and like a tornado and a hurricane. Before I was diagnosed, I was a special needs child with an emotional behavioral problem. This emotional behavioral problem caused me to take offense when someone criticized me or said something I did not like, have outbursts in school, not keep up with two teaching jobs in the past, fail my first student teaching in November 1996, spend excessively (which I am now in a lot of debt, but slowly coming out of it- Praise God), and perform any behavior that was out of the norm.
I have hospitalized 6 times, seen psychiatrists and therapists, and been given different kinds of medication.
Well, today, I am writing to you because I am a changed person. I have a music degree, I am currently working on a master’s degree in special education, I am finally on the right kinds of meds (at least for now), becoming more active by helping my devoted “knight in shining armor” husband of 6 years clean up around the house, and helping my daughter and myself practice on the piano. I am also a substitute teacher in the process of driving school busses (I have a CDL learner’s permit now) and in the addition of being the proud mother of my daughter, I am also the proud mother of a son, three stepchildren, and three step-grandchildren. Dave, I learned from my husband that taking medication will not just help me alone with the bipolar. It takes the Almighty God to step in and help me with the medication by prayer, reading Scripture, and meditation.
And now before I take the medication, I say according to Isaiah 53:5 that by His stripes I am healed. And it works!! So far, I have not had any episodes in about a week. We’ll see how everything else goes later on in this chapter of my life because right now, I have a powerful testimony to say that I am healed by His stripes and that I do not put too much emphasis on the bipolar. I am seeking Him regularly!! Thank you, Dave for your mother’s testimony and everyone else. You are a true inspiration. And every since I have read some of your books that I have ordered in the past, it has made me a better person. I may fall down, but I know to get up and keep moving!! Enjoy this letter!
Paula
HAPPY LABOR DAY, ALL!!! I hope, Dave, that you take the rest of the day OFF, and put the bipolar far behind you just for a few moments. Doing your daily emails IS work; and you NEED a break!!
Glad you got a chance to “take a hike,” as it were; sorry you got lost…But – finding another person with ties to bipolar was “coincidental,” now, wasn’t it??!! Just goes to show you, you never know who/what you’ll run into every day…
Although I have “thorns” aplenty, I like to think my “roses” shine through. By the way, my boyfriend’s last name IS Thorn, without the “e!” He’s Welsh, and VERY tight; he’s taught me soooo much about saving money and starting to negotiate with the IRS and the State about my tax debts :(.
So – Yes, bipolar, as in life, you have to learn how to cope with both the good and the bad; not only is it the law of nature, but our Good Lord promises us a rainbow at the end of the storm.
BIG HUGS to all bipolar survivors and those who love us. May God bless you real good.
Life is like a rose? And I thought it was like a box of chocolates! (Forest Gump) LOL!
A question: Does anyone here who is NOT BP see auras around people, trees and things, or am I delusional?
That’s the trouble with BP – you can never trust your own damned judgment!
(I tree was silently talking to me today … hmmm … I think I just answered my own question: delusional!)
Dave,
I noticed your e-mail said Stanhope, N.J. I used to live in Flanders, N.J. Just thought that was kinda funny. You sound like you enjoyed your Labor Day, except for the injury, of course.I enjoyed my day without injuries, thank God. Thanks for the poem, people don’t realize this until somebody actually points it out to them. Thanks for enlightening everyone! Peace!
Hi, Dave,
I enjoyed your email. It made me think of a funny story. Well, it wasn’t funny at the time and I still wrinkle my nose when I think about it but it involves a rose, an eager child and a honeybee.
Can you guess?
The child was me. I was in my grandmother’s yard and the roses were in bloom. I could smell them and, following the scent, I reached for a rose in which I could bury my face, appreciatively inhaling its scent. I was careful; I knew about thorns. I’d learned that lesson all too well. So when I felt the soft petals of the open rose on my fingertips, I seized it, bent and buried my face in it. As I started to inhale, I got something besides the rose scent up my nose. I had disturbed a honeybee, obviously angry that someone else was trying to hog the nectar! I guarantee that you’ve not lived until you’ve had a honeybee sting the inside of your nose!Fortunately, it didn’t go all the way up, I let out a scream and loudly expelled the bee. I wasn’t so lucky at getting the stinger out though. That took the aid of a grownup and it was difficult since the insides of my nose were swelling as the stinger got more and more firmly embedded. Fortunately, the bee only had one stinger and only could sting one nostril so, while it took awhile to heal and while I was careful to shake the next flowers I smelled, my olfactory sense in the other nostril remained strong and, after the stinger was removed, some creative first aid applied and eventually things got sorted out, there was no permanent damage and my love for smelling flowers was not dampened.
I have to say that the rose is not my favorite flower to smell, though it is interesting to try to identify different varieties by their smells. My favorite are the sweeter smelling flowers like gardenias, lilacs, hyacinths, mountain laurel, apple and orange blossoms and then some of the more pungent, like carnations and chrysanthemums.
Anyway, the things about the rose are true of life and, as with me and the poor honeybee, whose life was snuffed out by the enthusiasm of a little girl, life often throws us completely unexpected things. Sometimes our dreams are shattered, our hopes dashed, our faith strained. Sometimes we want to walk away, to crawl into a hole somewhere, to be taken care of. But, just as a boxer gets a rest between rounds, those of us who choose to stay in the game of life and fight the battles, though we may have to be on the sidelines for a little while (facing an illness, trying to get help, sorting through the medication maze, we are born with an inner strength that, until adversity strikes, we often can not know we have. For many of us, we have also found our sources of spiritual strength and blessing.
Hope your leg gets to feeling better soon. I like that you went to the gym and did an upper body machine. If part of you is hurt, you can let it heal and still keep strengthening and using what you have. That’s a very healthy, positive attitude. You are a very good role model for those of us on your list. I know it is easy to see the negative people on your list, the ones who are going through difficult times and say cruel and angry things. If it makes you feel any better, other people see that too. But the ones that stick with you are those who know the encouragement that these emails bring. I notice the times when the messages are written. You get up earlier than I do, generally. I know it isn’t easy. But you can see by today’s blog postings that you are much appreciated. You are also very human. Sorry you got lost in the woods. I hope you weren’t afraid to ask directions. I will resist the temptation to overgeneralize about all the men I’ve known (especially my father) who would wander around or drive around for hours without admitting to being lost and refusing to stop in at a gas station for directions even when my mom was begging for potty breaks! TurTruthfully, I’m glad you got to hike. I like hearing about you going to the park with Anna or going to a friend’s or to a movie. Again, you are being a good role model by showing supporters that it is important to find a way to get some time away, time to do things they enjoy.
Hope everyone was able to have a good day today and a better one tomorrow.
Dave,
I love roses and yes they do have thorns! They smell nice, they look beautiful but if you don’t remove the thorns before you put them in the vase, you could get pricked. I don’t like when I prick myself becuase it hurts. Just like when my loved one pricks me with his bi-polar disorder. It hurts. The deep puncture hurts for a while, it doesn’t just go away. It seems as if my loved one can get into one of these very bad moods, or have an episode and then it just goes away. Unlike the wounds he leaves in his wake. When he’s good, he’s oh so good, but when he’s bad, he’s oh so bad. That’s a song too. Anyway, I still don’t know much about all of this but keep on reading.
Thanks for sharing.
Hi Dave,
Sorry I’m late, one of my thorns I guess, : ) I think it is true that there is a good side and bad side to everything. Not just mental disorders but everything, a car is good, but it needs gas, bad. A job is good, but it gets hard to be consistently on time and up to par to work at everyday staying competent to do the job everyday bad. The sun is great, but can burn us, bad. A computer is great, until it crashes, bad. I could go on and on. But the deal with bipolar is, I am very medication compliant, I see my psychologist religiously and my psychiatrist, I do nutrition, try to exercise, stay as grateful as I can 97% of the time. I work hard at my recovery because I realize how much of a blessing it is to have the medication I do, that it works for me, and that I have good drs. The bad side is I wasn’t treated for 36 years, my first 36 years were hell. I live in paradise compared to the deppression and suicidal tendencies I used to have. The worst thorn in my life now is other aspects of my health. Arthritis, and a eating/sleep disorder that knocks me out after meals in an unpredictable time frame. Sometimes I go out, other times not. But bipolar for me was all thorns for 36 years, now it is pretty much roses, but I put a lot of effort into my recovery. Perhaps I had to climb the thorny stem to get to the rose, but I am there now!
I don’t stay up late, I don’t miss sleep, I don’t miss medication, I don’t miss my dr’s appts. and I exercise fairly regularly. I gotta tell ya, it is mostly roses now. I might spend too much money, but I have a system for that, I get my money rationed out over the month so I don’t crash and burn there. I guess what I am trying to say is bipolar is HIGHLY manageable. What motivates me is how bad it was before medication and therapy. I learned a secret, if you stay grateful, it is awful hard to have a bad day. I’m not saying I never am in a bad mood, but they are very few and far between. Bipolar is manageable, but it takes a lot of work.
I was talking to my therapist the other week and I told her that I didn’t know why so many people are resistive to accepting that they have bipolar, and she said a lot of it is due to the fact that they like the mania, how it makes them feel. I told her I can see that. Then she said that they also don’t like how medication makes them groggy, or feel lifeless, or down. I told her I got over that by taking it so long that the side effects don’t even bother me in that respect any longer. If you know people who are manic and hate the way their medication makes them feel. It may be that it just takes a long time for our system to adapt and for the medication’s side effects to wear off. I have been med. compliant for over 4 years… I have not missed one dose! I would say it might take 6 months to a year before the grogginess and sleepiness wear off, but it does wear off and I never feel groggy, or sleep more than 8 hrs, I might sleep 9 if I am exhausted, but that is from exercise and different. As a rule, when I started on major tranqs I slept about 11-12 hrs a day. They had to be adjusted, but I stuck with it… It took a year for me to work with a good doctor to get them adjusted correctly and now I am living a good life most of the time. There are a lot of things that are not easy in life, and a lot of things take repeated efforts to learn how to do, managing bipolar has been one of these things in my life, but I was able to do it.
So if anyone out there needs to know it can be done, I am living proof. It may take all my time and all my effort to stay grateful, but it is becoming automatic. When I get a depressive thought, I look for things to be grateful for, when I wish I could be manic, I look for things that I have to be grateful for that being manic would take from me. This works for me. I hope it will work for others…
Sincerely,
Bob
Hi dave,
Yes the Rose is a symbol of love, passion and beauty, however to touch the flower we must remember it contains thorns in its beauty.A lession to learn to us all to obtain such love passion and beauty that sometimes in life we must also endure first pain to reach such splendor.
Only recently i have discovered that my sister has bi-polar after the death of our father she had one episode after the funeral. I thought i didnt know her anymore the things she said,lies, cursing at us the family. even the aggression. But one thing did happen afterwards the realization that it was not normal and we discovered her simtoms were of bi-polar. For the love of my sister and of my familly we have realized that she has a problem and have not held the episode against her.
With the help and information that im recieving we will be supporting her even though she lives far from us. She is not alone and our love and strenghth will follow her.
thanks Dave
Your quote of the rose is so perfect.
But this response is about something I was reading on line last night. Can you see or find out the validity of Bipolar disorder discovery. That a man over the age of 40 (i think) becoming a father has a higher percentage of a child being born with bipolar disorder.
Would love to hear your take on this.
Thanks. Have a wonderful day/week. Hope your leg feels better. 🙂
hi dave how is ur leg today? im glad i found u im at the end of my ropes but i understand completely about bad days and good days my b/f and my mom suffers from bipolar everyday they both have theyre ups and downs. my b/f is the one currently NOT on meds. i told him about the fire story u told and i think it really got through to him. were supposed to be making him an appt. this week thank you so much u may have saved us. urs truly
kristina
I AM HAPPY
Your e-mails are appreciated. Regarding your leg – suggest you do some water therapy rather than, or at least in addition to, your gym program.
i just stumbled on davids webpage i dont know if i have bi-polar but alot of things seem ring alot of bells i have depression on and of an anxiety but my doctor never said to me about bi-polar i didnt even know what it was until davids site i enjoy the emails i m going to learning classes on different subjects im trying to be healthy and i do feel better the emails i look forward to reading and all the peoples comments im taking courses on introduction to counselling beauty and many other things to help my journey and believe you me ive had many a jagged thorn to cope with but im still here and trying to smell the rose for a change