Bipolar Disorder? Tell Them This

Hi, how’s it going? Hope you are doing well.

I just received an email from a woman who was not happy. She told me about how she got diagnosed with bipolar disorder, and her struggles dealing with it. Then she told me that her long-term boyfriend said something recently that really offended her. He said, “I don’t think you’re bipolar because you don’t act crazy like some of the people we’ve met who are bipolar.”

Wow. Isn’t that quite a statement? I can see where she would be offended. After all this time that he was supposed to be there through her struggles, and he wasn’t even paying attention. She asked me how she should respond to this. Well, that’s not the easiest thing to answer, but I’ll fill you all in on what I think would be best in a situation like that.

To start off with, address your hurt. Let them know that it hurt you for them to say that, and let them know why. This might sound something like: “I really wish you wouldn’t have just said that to me – it really hurt my feelings. Now I feel like you haven’t been paying attention to all the struggles that I’ve gone through with this.”

Try to use “I statements” whenever you can, because them getting defensive isn’t going to help you get your point across any better. Then, depending on how they react, you can choose your actions from there.

Ideally, they’ll realize that they worded it poorly and let you know that it came out wrong. If that’s the case, then you might have solved the entire problem already. I would suggest still sitting down to talk about what they do see of your struggles, just to make sure you are both on the same page.

If, on the other hand, they continue with their original point, and are not willing to see that they hurt you (or why they hurt you), then you will have to make it more obvious to them. At that point tell them about the struggles that you’ve had, and that you’re working your way through it. Tell them that it’s disappointing that they should be seeing this from the outside.

But then, I want you to realize something. And once you’ve realized this, you can tell them as well. Yes, it’s sad that they are seeing things from the outside looking in, instead of from the inside helping you out. But if they must be on the outside, then at least they see your more “normal” side first. If they aren’t going to know you as well as they should, at least they don’t immediately think that you’re crazy.

It’s hard, because it’s coming from someone who is supposed to be close to you, but if you think about it, that is exactly how you would want an outsider to see you. That means you’re doing something right. Unfortunately, it still means that they’re doing something wrong.

But you can tell them, that while you’re disappointed that they haven’t been as close to your situation as you had thought that they were, at least you are recovering well enough that you don’t appear to be “crazy.” They shouldn’t be able to argue the fact that not looking crazy is a good thing.

So maybe it will help them to see the struggles that you have been going through. If not, you may need to reevaluate your relationship with them. This doesn’t necessarily mean to stop talking to them altogether. But if they aren’t going to be as close to you as you had thought, then you need to be aware of that for the future.

I hope this helps. Any other suggestions?

Well, I have to go!

Your Friend,

Dave

  1. 1. fire up computer
    2. get coffee
    3. look for email from my friend David
    Thank You for being here.
    Thank You for being you.

  2. I understand what this woman is feeling because I can try to say things to my husband about the way he talks to me sometimes and having bipolar disorder.. It’s a struggle for all of us and we are all affected differently.
    Sometimes I am told that having bipolar disorder is a crutch and that I have to quit making excuses for not dealing with problems well or not wanting to deal with anything because Ic an’t handle it.
    I am sorry that this woman feels like her support isn’t there for her. I share a bond in that most of the time. So hang in there and try to find a positive support group for your self or get your man to listen to your doctor….. I hope things get better for her

  3. I know how you feel. I had a special person in my life that I thought was my soul mate. I had a awful episode & freaked out, he wouldn’t forgive me for a letter I wrote to him. He also was Bipolar, but he finally got to where he could or would not deal with it and be a supportor any more. So I lost the love of my life. As well as all friends, family, etc. It is because they don’t understand, they act like this does not exist. I tell myself if they truely had loved me or were my friends, then they would have stuck by me. I have struggled so long now, it is awful. In and out of hospitals, switching doctors, all the different medications, and everything else that goes with it. I am now figureing out, for me to get all the information, support groups, taking my meds, going to my therapist, the more info I get the better for me. One day, maybe people will realize how seriou this illness really is. I wish you the best.

  4. they are not kids — i just got an email from a man who is turning 33 years old this year…..I AM HAPPY “ELECTED MAN”

  5. You stated exactly where I’m at after 6 years in nursing and 17 years as a decorated Law Enforcement, and recently retired, I wish I was back at work.My husband says underminded statement(Bipolar since 15) He goes to church and just is mean as he hits door. I’m a very attractive lady, Take care of myself, no children.Mental health is awful here in South Georgia. I had excellent Doctors, therapy(the Best) in Ohio. Here they seem to try to upset you. I’m ready to go out west where my 2 brothers are,FBI,Col.USAF. I’m just by myself. Have wonderful men friends calling from Cananda2xDoctor, Another 2xDoctor Ohio.I dispise the south Parents deceased early age. There is nothing here.Brothers are single, we get along, or are close. Talk on phone couple times a week.

  6. ******Dave******

    I have questions and maybe you can help me with some answers. It doesn’t have to do with this post but it is kind of similar.

    I am/was in a relationship for 3.5 years with an amazing man. He always had issues, depression, anger, overanalyzing everything, freak outs, he would disappear/blow up. Anyway he was always on some sort of meds for depression. Finally he went to the Dr. and was diagnosed with bipolar. I was relieved that we finally had answers. I have lived with family members who suffer with it so I am not scared of it, as some people would be. Anyway, he went on his medication and I was amazed at how well it worked. His mood swings lessened and we finally were happy 99% of the time. His manic swings and anger issues were cut in half. He is such a wonderful person, loving, caring, hard working. He still needed someone to help manage normal things like money, and other things that he couldn’t which is normal for a bipolar person. Nothing that I couldn’t handle.

    The issues I have are: He does things in excess, he has an addictive personality. So when I say this I mean, if he drinks, he drinks a lot and often. This is also true for other things that are not good, without saying. When he does this, even though they are depressants, and does them in excess, he then feels that he don’t need to take his meds. It takes over and he quits taking his meds. As we all know it takes a few weeks to get the meds built back up in the system to maintain but it only takes a few days to crash!

    When he crashes, he crashes huge. No one is hurt more by this than me. I get the blunt of it! He does not fight/argue about anything, even little things, because in his mind two people in love shouldn’t argue at all. (we know that isn’t true in any relationship, because we all are going to disagree on something, like chores or money) So When he quits taking the meds and I tell him he needs to that is an argument or even if I say something he dissagrees with. He Bails, runs away, sometimes with out warning. Sometimes for a few hours, sometimes days, sometimes months. No communication or anything. Like he falls off the face of the earth. I just sit and wait, because I love him.

    He leaves all his belongings here, disappears, and then out of the blue he shows back up. Of course taking his meds again.

    But, this time, its been 5 months. This time is different. I have talked to him twice and he talks out of both sides of his mouth. (I love you, you need to move on, when I get home, I need to figure things out in my head) Many of his friends are worried too because of his behavior, but “guys” just dont discuss this stuff.

    I am dealing with his family and they are blaming me for everything. They say he doesn’t need to be on the medication, that I filled his head with all the crazy stuff. (LOL) OK, I am not the Dr. I didn’t go to the appointment with him, his mother did. They were very supportive for the longest time, always asking me if he was taking his meds, which I monitored very closely. Now this. So in all this, the people who are suppose to be helping him are now telling him he doesn’t need the medication, that he is fine and not bipolar or manic.

    He is still out doing all his “crazy” behavior, meaning. Not working, roaming around from friend to friends house. Not caring about anything or anyone. So not living in a reality that everyone else does. I feel like I have lost my best friend, and partner. They are keeping him from me because in their minds I am the one that is messed up. (I am not) I feel like I am his only supporter and only want him to be better. I am not sure what I can do.

    I know he is not taking his meds as all his mail comes here still. I get his medical papers and know he has not filled any of his meds since he left. I keep an eye on that since with his insurance they send a receipt to the house after a Dr. apt or med pick up.

    I am scared that his family is going to let him self destruct because they are in denial and are keeping him from his treatments. They are trying to keep it a secret like it is a black mark on the family name. Which in fact even his sister is diagnosed with something similar, and over medicates. Yet she used to be a great supporter and now says he is “fine”. I just want to scream “wake up people, your not helping him, your hurting him”. I have to say in all honesty, I wish he was “fine”, because as you well know, not having bipolar is much easier on the person and the people who care. I wouldn’t wish it on anyone, but something’s in life you just have to accept, if you love them.

    I have read everything you send me and also look at all the other places you suggest. I have read so many books on bipolar and other mental issues. I am at a loss. I try to talk to his friends but they also either have not heard from him or won’t talk about it.

    If you have any suggestions or information that I can pass on, it would be helpful. I feel like I need to do something before I loose him, and I don’t mean just the relationship, I mean dead. He is a very angry person with no fuse when not on his meds. He makes references to he won’t make it past 35 years old and he is almost 34 now.

    I cry more now than ever in my life, because I feel helpless. I miss him and am scared for what might happen to him. I don’t know what to do!

    thanks for listening, reading and hopefully helping me.

    Jody Karns
    Iowa

  7. It amazes me how many people misconceive others with mental illness. I have seen this from outsiders, family, friends, and believe it or not doctors themselves.

    I have a thirteen year old daughter with bipolar and the things some people have said have been hurtful and shocking at times.

    People need to wake up and see that mental illness is similiar to physical ilnesses in that yes there are episodes and hard times but when properly medicated and following a good regime a person can also be stable and live a productive life just like anyone else.

  8. I jut had to tell you that what you wrote really touched my heart. I am a 40yo woman with 2 teens and my husband couldn’t handle my mental illness anymore, so we have seperated after 20 years. To be fair to him, I wasn’t diagnosed until after the birth of my second child.

  9. This person who is her supporter must not know very much about bipolar and the different types and the different mood levels involved. Because the kind of bipolar that I have is mostly depression with some rapid cycling thoughts with some added aniexty just to top off everything, most people don’t look at it as being “crazy”, even though I hate that word. As my Docs have told me continually I’m not “crazy”, my brian just works differently than other people. But it’s amazing the power the word bipolar has. I had been being treated for clinical depression with aniexty disorder under 3 different Docs for about 5 years and wasn’t getting any better, until my 4th Doc. He immediately saw that their was something different about me and after some testing he changed my diagnosis to bipolar. I started to see a therapist who also agreed with the diagnosis. Now here where things got tough for me. I had been told in the hospital to be honest about my condition and that their was nothing wrong with having a mental illness. WRONG!!! I told my boss and my co-workers and suddenly they started treating me differently. I didn’t change – my diagnosis changed. That was 2 years ago and I’m still trying to live down the diagnosis of bipolar. Just recently it was said that “I was just too sensitive”! Give me a break, and this came from someone I work with who is a paramedic and should know better. I’m not sure what level of bipolar that this lady has, but just because she doesn’t act what some people would think as “crazy” doesn’t mean she doesn’t have bipolar. Her supporter needs to learn more about the condition before thinking she should act like a “movie of week” person with bipolar where they show people on the far edge of the bipolar scale! I’m so glad that my main supporter (my husband) who is also a paramedic and sees all kinds of people with mental illness is very accepting of my condition and is always there for me.
    I love getting your daily emails – you are truly an inspiration and your Mom is extremely lucky to have you for a son!

  10. so what you saying dave if having bipolar,, your crazy on the inside…We are talking about a brain desese..
    Linda…x

  11. Just the other day i had an argument with my mom and she said that i wasn’t really bipolar, because i was taking all of my bipolar medicine and that i was still acting crazy.

    She said if i was really bipolar the medicine would stop me from acting crazy.

    That hurt me quite a bit. I have been diagnosed with bipolar for 8 yrs now and see a Dr regularly and i struggle a lot with just trying to not feel depressed or messed up in some way for one day.

    I don’t think taking medicine makes everything perfect when one is bipolar does it? because i still have problems sometimes with depression or getting angry. and i take a lot of medication.
    (I am on Depakote, Celexa, and Risperdal.)

  12. I understand this all to well, my husband’s famous comment to me is “did you take your medicine today?” Oh how it infuriates me, however I have realized this is a journey to wellness and only I can take it, if I focus on myself then all the work and care I have given myself will be evident to all, even strangers. So for this women I suggest, keep your head up, continue to make yourself healthy and don’t worry about the boyfriend, he will eventually figure it out.

  13. My wife has been diagnosed bipolar since she was 14. I know it seems rather easy to beat up on this guy, but without knowing the full story I believe we need to cut him a little slack. I’ll be honest, I know my wife has bipolar and I know this disease exists (i’m a psychologist…not the clinical kind) and I know that it is complete hell. I get to see this on a daily basis. However, as someone who has never really had a psychological disorder, it is very hard sometimes to understand what they are going through. Sometimes, I get frustrated. Just as I need to try to look at our life through her eyes, she needs to try to look at our life through mine as well. I’m going through grad school (70-80 hour a week time commitment at least), we have little to no money and I am the sole provider (she can’t work), I’m responsible for 80% of the household chores (she just doesn’t do them regardless of what plans we set up), I usually have to make dinner/etc. It gets extremely frustrating sometimes. When she is in one of her depressive/irritable stages it is a lot easier for me to understand. However, when she is not really in an episode and still does not help maintain our household on some front and I am still responsible for almost everything, it starts to take a toll on you. One has to realize that “loved ones/supporters” are dealing with a disease that THEY WILL NEVER KNOW…they can only read about it and that will never capture it. Sometimes people say things, either in frustration or anger at the situation. This does not mean they don’t truly love the person or that they don’t understand. All it means is that they are human and fall down sometimes. My wife always tells me in our regular discussions about her current mental state (thank you dave for that advice!) that she wishes I could be in her mind to truly understand what is going on. At the same time, I wish she could be in my shoes for a little bit. I know dealing with bipolar is not easy for her. However, it isn’t easy on the people that have pledged their support to them either. Its a two way street.

  14. Recently, I had to go out of state to get major surgery. My husband went with me and stayed until I woke from the anesthesia. Then he had to drive home almost 5 hours. Of course, the whole time I was gone he had to go to work. While I was recuperating in the hospital I called my husband and best friend of 25 years and my sister, telling them that the nursing staff was not caring for me properly. I had been stranded in my room more than once with no access to the bathroom, my room phone or cell phone, or TV or table with drinks. I was not getting bathed. I would buzz the call button only to be greeted with impatience and then ignored for as long as 45 minutes. I kept trying to tell my husband. Eventually, b/c my best friend told my husband that she had been on the phone with me once and heard for herself how the nurses were treating me, my husband contacted the case manager and began to put pressure on her. He was then told that the hospital was planning on giving me a psych eval, and sending me to the psych unit. When I learned this I freaked. I tried telling my husband all this started because of one nurse who very obviously had taken a dislike to me. (While I was dry heaving into a pan that another nurse was holding for me at 3 AM, the nasty nurse had come in and said “Oh, for God’s sake! What’s wrong with you NOW???”) Because my husband had made a very strong stand, I was NOT given a psych eval, and just came home. When I got home my husband told me that originally he didn’t do anything about my situation b/c he had come to the conclusion that, being so far away from home, I must have become psychotic. I was so upset that he had automatically believed everyone else b/c I’M the one with the mental illness.
    I’ve also been aware for years that my husband seems to find it necessary to tell everyone and anyone that I have bipolar disorder. He told me the other day of a co-worker who asked “What’s it like to live with someone with bipolar?” I have been so hurt that the only way he describes me, identifies me, is that I have bipolar. I was so gratified when my sister was telling me that she tells everyone that “My sister is a writer.” I can hear the pride in her voice, and it makes me feel like I’m seen by her as a person and not an illness. And yes, I told my husband of this, and he said he thought he didn’t identify me as a mental illness. I told him that he did and that it hurt…a lot. I said Why is it necessary for you to tell people that I have a mental illness?
    I have found myself thinking that the way HE identifies himself is as my caretaker. That my mental illness gives him a sense of identity. I feel like I am not a person but a set of symptoms, and that especially hurts, b/c for the last 7 years I have made huge changes in my life that have enabled me to be more independent, and yes healthier mentally. My therapist says my husband is not seeing me as I am right now, that I haven’t presented any symptoms in years. So, I have to ask, when do I get to be seen as me?

  15. All you can do is explain. I have to say just because someone doesn’t have Bipolar disorder, doesn’t mean that they know how to be perfect. I can say that from experience. I’m not diagnosed with any particular mental disorder but I’m not good at dealing with stress I crack under pressure very easily.

    All that can be done is education and sometimes I forget the things I’ve been taught. It’s human… I don’t think the intent is likely hurtful with these statements. I know I don’t TRY to hurt anyone but it happens way more than I’d like 🙁

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