Dave,
I would like to hear more form you and thanks for the advice It has helped me a lot. I have something that I want to share with you. I found it on a web site I don’t remember where. I’m just searching though my faith as a Christian and it has inspired me. I’ll share it with you.

Romans. The 28th verse says, “. . . they did not like to retain God in their knowledge.” Little or nothing is taught about God, but even in the elementary grades the basic concept—the approach to knowledge—is evolution.

When Jesus Christ spoke on earth 4,000 years later, only 120 people believed what he said (Acts 1:15), though he preached his message from God to multiple thousands.

The prophet Isaiah quotes God himself, saying: “To whom then will ye liken me, or shall I be equal? . . . Lift up your eyes on high, and behold who hath created these things, that bringeth out their host by number: he calleth them all by names by the greatness of his might, for that he is strong in power; not one faileth” (Isa. 40:25-26).

why,” taunts God to the doubter, “you are things of naught, you can do nothing at all!” (Isa. 41:21-24, Moffatt). These scriptures reveal God’s power but not what God is, in a manner to make him real to the reader. Other scriptures must do that.

If you were asked where in the Bible to find the very earliest description of God in point of the time of his existence, you probably would say, “Why, in the very first verse in the Bible, Genesis 1:1, of course.’’ Right?

Wrong!

In time-order the earliest revelation of who and what God is is found in the New Testament: John 1:1.

The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. In him was life; and the life was the light of men” (John 1:1-4).

But who or what is this Logos? Notice the explanation in verse 14:

”And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.”

As God—as the Logos? That is answered in John 4:24, “God is a Spirit,” and spirit is invisible

We find regarding the beginning of his existence, something further described in Hebrews chapter 7. Speaking of Melchisedec, who was king of Jerusalem in the days of Abraham, it says also that he was the Priest of God Most High. This Melchisedec had existed from eternity—“without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually” (Heb. 7:3).

That family is composed, now, of God the Father, and Jesus Christ his Son, and many begotten humans who already, now, are begotten sons of God (Rom. 8:14, 16; I John 3:2), forming the Church of God.

That family aspect—the God family—is vitally important

verse 3 of John 1, all things (the universe) were made by the Word.

Now understand this, by adding Ephesians 3:9: “. . . God, who created all things by Jesus Christ.”

God the Father is Creator. But he “created all things by Jesus Christ.” Jesus is the Word. It is written, “He spake, and it was done” (Ps. 33:9). God tells Christ what to do (John 8:28-29). Jesus then speaks, as the workman, and the Holy Spirit is the power that responds and does what Jesus commands.

Thus, as we read further, in Colossians 1, beginning verse 12, “Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath . . . translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son . . . who is the image of the invisible God [same appearance, form and shape and character] . . . for by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: and he is before all things, and by him all things consist” (verses 12-13, 15-17).

Therefore God’s Word reveals that God and the Word—two supreme Personages—coexisted always—and before anything had been created—including this earth and the entire universe.
There was a time, therefore, when those two Personages coexisted and nothing else did.

No third Person is mentioned—no “Ghost.’’ Is God, then, limited to only two Persons? The false Trinity teaching does limit God to three Persons. But God is not limited. As God repeatedly reveals, his purpose is to reproduce himself into what well may become billions of God persons. It is the false Trinity teaching that limits God, denies God’s purpose and has palpably deceived the whole Christian world. Both God and the Word themselves are spirit, and project their Spirit. Let me illustrate. By your eyesight you can see something across the room, or see to the sun or even to stars that are many times the size of our sun, only much farther distant. But through your eyesight you cannot act on those objects. In like manner, God can project his spirit to any place regardless of distance, but through his Spirit God is able to act on such objects or to change it as he wills. Thus, God is omnipresent.

But matter—this earth, the stars, nebulae, galaxies—was not the first thing they created. They created angels before the creation of matter.

God speaks of the creation of the earth in the 38th chapter of Job. He says that, at the creation of the earth, all the angels shouted for joy (verse 7). Therefore all the angels already were in existence when the earth was first created.

In the Authorized Version the word heaven—singular—is used. But the original Hebrew as Moses wrote, and as other translations render it, is in the plural—heavens—implying that the whole material universe was created simultaneously with the earth. This is plainly stated in Genesis 2:4: “These are the generations [beginnings] of the heavens [plural] and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens.”

angels are immortal spirit beings, they might have dwelt here thousands or millions of years before the creation of man. How many God does not reveal. The earth, at first, was the abode of angels. But, Jude 6, “And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation [the earth]. . . .”

God is Spirit (John 4:24, Revised Standard Version). Why is God not real to so many people? Because God and the Word were composed of spirit, not matter, not flesh and blood, like humans. God is invisible to human eyes (Col. 1:15). He does not seem real. To seem real, the mind naturally wants to visualize a definite form and shape. But even though God is composed of spirit and not of visible matter, God nevertheless does have definite form and shape.

In Genesis 1:26, “God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness.” We know the form and shape of man. That is the image, likeness, form and shape of God.

One of Jesus’ disciples asked him what God the Father looks like. Jesus replied: “Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father . . .” (John 14:9). Jesus looked like the Father. Jesus was, actually, “God with us” (Matt. 1:23). Jesus was the begotten and born Son of God.

So now we know God has the same form and shape as a man. We also know he is composed of spirit, not of matter as is man. Spirit is invisible to human eyes, unless manifested by some special process.

And if so manifested we would see both God the Father and Christ now glorified in heaven with faces, though formed and shaped like human faces, as bright as the sun full strength! Their eyes flames of fire, feet like burnished brass and hair white as snow (Rev. 1:14-16).

The character of both God the Father and Christ the Son is that of spiritual holiness, righteousness and absolute perfection.

That character might be summed up in the one word love, defined as an outflowing, loving concern. It is the way of giving, serving, helping, sharing, not the “get” way.

It is the way devoid of coveting, lust and greed, vanity and selfishness, competition, strife, violence and destruction, envy and jealousy, resentment and bitterness.

God’s inherent nature is the way of peace, of justice, mercy, happiness and joy radiating outward toward those he has created!

The Word and God lived. What did they do? They created. How did they live—what was their “life-style”? They lived the way of their perfect character—the way of outflowing love. When Jesus was baptized, God the Father said, “You are my beloved Son.” God loved the Word. And the Word loved God—obeyed him completely.

Two can’t walk together except they be agreed. They were in total agreement and cooperation. Also two can’t walk together in continuous peace except one be the head, or leader, in control.
God was leader.

Their way of life produced perfect peace, cooperation, happiness, accomplishment. This way of life became a law. Law is a code of conduct, or relationship, between two or more. One might call the rules of a sports contest the “law” of the game. The presence of law requires a penalty for infraction. There can be no law without a penalty for its violation.

When the only conscious Life-Beings existed, God was leader—in authoritative command. Thus, even when the only conscious Life-Beings were God and the Word, there was government, with God in supreme command. The government of God is of necessity government from the top down. It cannot be “government by the consent of the governed.” Its laws originate and are handed down from God—never legislated by the people—never dictated by the governed how the government over them shall rule them. Since they created other conscious, thinking life-beings, this very fact of necessity put the government of God over all creation, with God supreme Ruler.

God’s law is spiritual and can be summed up in one simple but all-inclusive word—love. His law for the guidance of human conduct is subdivided into the two great commandments, love toward God and love toward neighbor.

the 10 Commandments. Jesus magnified this law by showing how its principle expands to cover virtually every possible human infraction. The third chapter of II Corinthians shows that God’s law is to be applied in principle. It is summed up in one single word, love. Nevertheless, it is so perfect that, by applying its principle, it is a complete law. There is only one perfect lawmaker, and that is God.

Bear in mind the government of God is based on the law of God, which is the way of life of outflowing love, cooperation, concern for the good of the governed. And this law of God produces peace, happiness, cooperation through obedience.

Genesis 1:1: “In the beginning God. . . .” This originally was written by Moses as God inspired him. Moses wrote in Hebrew. The Hebrew word translated “God” is Elohim—a noun or name, plural in form, but normally singular in grammatical usage. It is the same sort of word as family, church, group—one family consisting of two or more members—one church composed of many members—one group of several persons.

It is referring to precisely the same Persons, making up or composing the one God, as we found in John 1:1—the Word and God—and each of those two Persons is God

God is now a family of Persons, composed so far of only the two—God the Father and Christ the Son. But if the Holy Spirit of God dwells in someone, and he is being led by God’s Spirit, then (Rom. 8:14) he is a begotten son of God. But, at the time of Christ’s return to earth in supreme power and glory to set up the kingdom of God, restoring the government of God abolished by Lucifer, then all being filled and led by God’s Spirit shall become born sons of God. The God Family will then rule all nations with the government of God restored!

The Trinity doctrine limits God to a supposed three Persons. It destroys the very gospel of Jesus Christ! His gospel is the good news of the now soon-coming kingdom of God—the only hope of this world and its mixed-up mankind!

The Trinity doctrine, by contrast, is the doctrine of the great false religion called in Revelation 17:5: “Mystery, Babylon the great, the mother of harlots and abominations of the earth.”

By that doctrine, along with others, Satan has deceived all traditional Christianity.

Revelation 12:9 saying that all nations have been deceived by Satan the devil

It seems incredible that a being like Satan not only could have deceived the whole world, but also “Christianity”—the very religion bearing Christ’s name and supposed to be his true religion. Yet, paradoxically, Satan did!

He did it through his great false church, started a.d. 33 by Simon the Sorcerer, described in the 8th chapter of the book of Acts as the leader of the Babylonian mystery religion in Samaria. It is recorded in II Kings 17:23-24 that Shalmaneser, king of Assyria, who had invaded and conquered the northern kingdom—the kingdom of Israel—moved the people out of their land of Samaria, north of Jerusalem, and moved into that land people of the Babylonish mystery religion from the provinces of Babylon. They were, of course, gentiles. They inhabited this area of northern Palestine in the time of Christ. The Jews of Judea in Christ’s time would have nothing to do with them, calling them contemptuously “dogs.” They still adhered to this pagan Babylonish mystery religion in the first century.

This man is the great power of God” (Acts 8:10).

Then Simon came to the apostles Peter and John, offering money as a bribe, asking them to give him the power to lay hands on people and have them receive the Holy Spirit. Peter rebuked him strongly. But Simon proclaimed himself a Christian apostle, nevertheless, and called the pagan Babylonian mystery religion “Christianity.” He accepted the doctrine of “grace” for the forgiveness of sin (which the pagan religions had never had), but turned grace into license to disobey God (Jude 4). He aspired to turn his pagan religion, under the name “Christianity,” into a universal religion, to gain thereby the political rule of the world.

Counterfeit GospelBy the sixth decade of the first century, much of the Middle East had turned from the true gospel to a counterfeit (Gal. 1:6-7). As late as the 90s a.d. the apostle John was still living. He wrote the book of Revelation on the Isle of Patmos.

another disciple of Christ’s true Christianity, Polycrates, waged a still hotter controversy over the same Passover-Easter question with another bishop of Rome. This theological battle was called the Quartodeciman Controversy. Polycrates contended, as Jesus and the original apostles taught, that the Passover should be observed in the new Christian form introduced by Jesus and by the apostle Paul (I Cor. 11), using unleavened bread and wine instead of sacrificing a lamb, on the eve of the 14th Nisan (first month in the sacred calendar, occurring in the spring). But the Rome church insisted that it be observed on a Sunday.

Satan has deceived the entire world in regard to the very nature of who and what God is—as well as of Christ and the Holy Spirit. Also of the government of God, based on the spiritual law of God. And further, of what and why man is, what salvation is, how it is received, what is the true gospel, what and why the church is and what of the future!

word trinity is not used anywhere in the Bible. I am going to make completely clear, as we proceed, God has not limited himself to a “Trinity.” The surprising truth, once understood, is the most wonderful revelation the human mind could receive or contain!

The very first idea or teaching about God being a Trinity began in the latter half of the second century—a hundred years after most of the New Testament had been written. The counterfeit Christianity spawned by Simon the Sorcerer was promoting it vigorously along with the pagan Easter. But the true Church of God vigorously resisted it. The controversy became so violent it threatened the peace of the world. The then pagan Emperor Constantine called this Nicene Council to settle it. The Roman Emperor’s supporters greatly outnumbered the persecuted true Church of God.

You will find a prophecy of these two churches in the book of Revelation. In the 12th chapter is the prophecy of the true Church of God, greatly persecuted. Jesus called it “the little flock.” In the 17th chapter you will find the prophecy of the counterfeit church—a very great church, named by God “Mystery, Babylon the great, the mother of harlots” (verse 5). She lined up with and sat astride the political governments. The whole world will gasp in wonder (verse 8) when this religio-political medieval “Holy Roman Empire” is brought back to life! It is now in the preliminary stages of forming, starting from the Common Market!

There is only one small passage in the Authorized Version of the Bible that is generally used by Trinity adherents to support the Trinity doctrine. This passage is found in I John 5:7-8, and is bracketed in the following quotation: “For there are three that bear record [in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. And there are three that bear witness in earth], the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one

Bible commentaries explain that these words were never written in the apostle John’s manuscript or any existing early copies of it. The apostle John in his three epistles and the Revelation speaks of “the Father, and . . . Son” (I John 1:3), but never of “the Father and the Word,” except in this uninspired part of I John 5:7-8.

There was a real reason why the archdeceiver Satan wanted that spurious verse added in the Latin Vulgate from which it crept into the Authorized Version. The Trinity doctrine completely does away with the gospel of Jesus Christ. His gospel is the message he brought mankind from God the Father, the good news of the coming kingdom of God! That is the one thing above all Satan wants to defeat. This will become plain as we proceed.

the fact that in a number of places in modern translations the masculine pronoun he is carelessly used in connection with the Holy Spirit. But not always—sometimes the Holy Spirit is referred to as it in these very same translations. For example, in the passage describing the first coming of the Holy Spirit for the founding of the Church of God on that memorable day of Pentecost.

God is a family composed at present of the two Persons of John 1:1-4, but with many thousands, already begotten by God’s Spirit, in God’s true Church, soon to be born into that divine family at Christ’s return to earth. Jesus Christ, by his resurrection, was born a divine Son of God (Rom. 1:4)—the first so born into the God family (Rom. 8:29).

God and Christ are composed of spirit, formed and shaped as a human person, but with eyes like flames of fire and faces bright as the sun full strength!

God is Creator of all that exists. Both God and the Word (who became Christ) have existed eternally and before all else. From them emanates the Spirit of God, by which God is omnipresent and omniscient. God the Father is the divine Father of the God family, into which truly converted Christians shall be born.

I am looking forward to your newsletters. My son-in-law is bipolar and I have had no luck so far in finding anything in my community that offers what you do. I just dont understand why there isnt more help for the famlies with mental illness(outside of therapy. My daughther has an eating disorder, which was life threating a few years ago. There was no support at all where I live, the closet place was Palo Alto (8hrs) or LA (16 hrs) and from where I live. anyways, thank you for starting this sight. Cheryl

Dave,

Usually I don’t read your messages until later on in the morning so by the time I get the chance to reply the thread has been going on for a bit.I am heading out early this morning so obviously I must be one of the first to repond to this one.

From previous threads it has seemed that there are a few of us who usually seem to be nay-sayers or eternal pessimests.Or you could look at it another way think that,like in my disease there are differing degrees of aflication.Some are worse than others.I am not jealous of anyone who has a milder form than I do,on the other hand I am grateful that things go better for them. In my case the bipolar diagnosis has affected all aspects of my life for many,many years.

Since we don’t get an instruction book on how this disease is going to run its course, we never know when the next one is going to happen.Since I am a rapid-cycler at times mine sometimes come with only a couple of days between episodes.I do appreciate those non-episode times but being ever vigilant can be exhausting for me and for those around me that look out for me.I find it a trial to always be wondering if, this week will be the week, or even will today be the day.

I know that for most of afflicted by bilpolar symptoms stress is a huge trigger.If you are always looking over your shoulder, wondering about that next one, that is an immense source of stress to begin with, without coping with the other major stressors that are in the world today.

Yes there are relatively long periods of times between episodes for me, but I don’t know ahead of time how long they are going to be, or more importantly, how short.

you are really making sense to me but when i get to the point where i can’t go back or seems to not go back i end up cutting on my arm. does that make sense to you. i try really hard to fight it and do succeded most of the time but see i was raised and born in a cult go to aol.com type in brenda daeges the first website to show should say “broken cross” if not look for it please read it then respond to me and see if you have ideas for me to recognized and stop my behabior before my passivebipolar take ahold of me and there is no point of return…. please i am being open and honest with you so please take me seriously. untill the next time take care of your injury.

Hi Dave,

Yes it is so true that we have so much more to be grateful for than to complain about, but we often find more things to complain about than to be grateful for. When we look at our situation, weigh the bad vs the good, we can quickly see that we have so many blessings from sight, health, to cars, air conditioning, electricity, to running water, indoor plumbing… etc. people 2000 years ago had none of these things, we are so very blessed. I have learned to always look for the thing to be grateful for. And I am not grateful I have bipolar, I am grateful it is managed, medicated and I know how to think my way into stability by remaining grateful during episodes. But other than that, we have more blessings that we have problems, you are so right. We need to look for the things to be grateful for, keep these in mind, and when an inconvenience comes along say, “What is One inconvenience when I have a million blessings to be grateful for!” It changed my life! That is for sure!

Thanks for a great topic…
Bob

In regards to ur email about appreciation I totally agree , in a way I do feel grateful for having bipolar even though its hell on earth in the middle of an episode when its over it teaches you alot and you grow and see live in a different way.

David Oliver,
Sir have read your email tonight and couldn’t believe how well someone could finally put that we should be gratefull for the “normal” days and still cope with the episodes of bipolar disorder… I have been diagnosed with bipolar disorder since I was 14 and am now 28.. At the time of diagnosis it was called Manic Depression, and as you said thay are the same but being manic depressive is an incorrect term anymore… I have a loving husband and 2 wonderful children and life with Bipolar Disorder can be difficult with taking care of a family, at least it has it’s extremly trying times for me when I am having an episode.
My husband has learned when I have a good over happy peak , I am going to crash ( that’s what he calls it when I fall into a depression & anger episode) any way I know what it’s like to live with this “disease” and I do love the days that I have where nothing is going to bother me and I can sit in a room with other family members and hold a conversation with out jumping from one topic to the next in a slpit second, or having a brain fritz and forget completely what I was even doing… I thank god every day I don’t have many of those anymore.. They tend to scare me..
Any way I want to thank you for taking time out of your life to research these “diseases” for people who could use a friendly ear to listen or care.. I lived with a mother who battled depression for most of my childhood and a father who had seasonal affected depression dissorder, which was recently diagonosed as a thyroid problem, I am sorry you had a rough life growing up your self and I hope my kids never have to go through that with me as a disfunctional parent..
Again thank you so much for all of your research and caring heart and God Bless you in finding ways to help people to learn different ways to function with what ever they maybe dealing with in their lives as far as disorders go…
i also am glad my Aunt Charity told me about you and glad she knew you try to help people with Bipolar disorder as well as other disorders…. Again keep up the great work you are doing..

Sincerly,
Becky

Hi Dave:
I guess everyone who read “Chad’s” email knew he was in an episode, except me until it went on and on. I’ve had one manice stage in my life–I wrote a 57 page hate letter to my mother. And a 29 page letter to my brother telling him how he was the favored one all his life.
I wrote letters to my ex-husband page after page trying to convince him to come back. Writing is a symtom of a manic episode. Pluse “Chad” wrote another note on Schizoprenia. Whatever that boy (man) is he needs some medication. Along with the case of the guy saying that all pharmeceuticals were brain damaging. Narcotics yes I agree that they can be brain damaging. I think that’s when I became bipolar. The doctors had me on a ton of pain meds for Trigeminal Neuralgia.THE most painful nervous system disease you can have. More people commit suicide from Trigeminal Neuralgia than any other Nervous System dysfunction. More than ALS and MS and host of other NS dysfunctions. But that’s when I started acting wierd. I was in counseling, but the counselor encouraged my hate for my brother and my mother, and my dad–for just standing there doing nothing for the abuse I was receiving from my mother. She is abusive to this day. Except now that she is 70 her aches and pains are more on the agenda, then being abusive, gossipy,& just basically dysfunctional herself.
I learned to accept her, put my own boundaries up. (Like just hanging up on her when she wants to continue an argument.) It all works. I wonder now if I just had that one manic episode–if it just wasn’t dibilitating depression that I had. I take Cymbalta and Abilify but those two were putting me to sleep during the day when I needed to be alert for my classes and works. Finally,
another doctor saw me and lowered the dose of Abilify, took me off Topomax (which my doctor said was for weight loss, when one of the side effects was WEIGHT GAIN) and put me on a stimulant, now I feel like my old self. Before the depression, before the narcotics, before the “Bipolar”. Writing is a way I release my feelings. And I had a ton of pent up feelings. Maybe the “manic” phase was just me finally releasing feelings I had had for years. I’ve had no manic episodes since. And that was 3 years ago.
No “episodes” since, just have fallen into 1 minor incident of depression. My friend once told me,”God gave the knowledge to these professionals to develope these medications, to help us.” I have always adhered to that belief, but I still believe the pharmaceutical companies are out to rip off the American (specifically) people. Medications here are the most expensive in the world. I had to get a refill on some Valium in Italy–it cost me 10euros to see the doctor and $5euros for what would have been a $40.00 prescrition here in the US. They do have us over a barrell. Especially for the people who need it the most and are the ones least likely to be able to afford it.
Thanks for letting me rant. It’s a good outlet plus if any information I give helps anybody else-great! God Bless You All-
teri

Morning David, You said you had to go to library to research schizophrenia this morning. I am wondering if you’ve ever done any research on schizophrenia/bi-polar and the prison systems. ???
Seems to me there are alot of people with mental health issues such as schizophrenia and bi-polar who at one time or another got into trouble and are now or have been incarcerated. These are the people who need help the most dealing with these issues when they are released back into our society. Some, maybe most, do not have “support” systems or even realize they need a “plan” in place for the next episode. They don’t understand they need medications and certain things. They do “good” while incarcerated because they have routines, when to eat, work, potty, sleep, shower etc. They have none of the “outside” stresses of bills etc. Then they become “free” and all heck breaks lose.
Do you think there is any way with your programs to educate these people and thus give them a better chance of not reoffending? Looking forward to hearing from you or reading your thoughts in your daily writings regarding this subject.

Thanks and God Bless you. Shauna

David I am really interested what you find out on your research on the schizophrenia stuff. My husband has bipolar and schizophrenia. I have been researching also. He gets really angry and abusive because of lack of any control in his life. And it is directed at me.( the domestic violence stuff. ) We have separated and are living in two separate homes. It is not good for the kids to see and have to live with. But I know underneath that he is a great person and want to help him. I want to see if what is going on with him and the two illnesses and the domestic violence are connected or if they are separate. Authorities and others say that they are not. His therapist says possibly not but there is a possibility. I say there is. So I am researching this stuff. Any thing you find would be helpful.

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