Big mistake with bipolar disorder-Internalizing craziness

=>PLEASE FORWARD TO FRIENDS, FAMILY AND LOVED ONES <= Hi, How’s it going? I hope you are doing well. I am probably going to offend
some people today. But I have
to say this. It’s important.

I know I will get a whole lot of
hate mail from this email 🙂

I am actually getting ready to take
off for the gym and I was thinking about
something that happen to me yesterday.

We just setup some super duper
system that monitors whether or not
emails that I send are actually getting
to the people I send them to.

Anyway, I had to look at my entire list of
email addresses in my database. It’s a ton
like over 190,000.

I was scanning the addresses and looking
and noticing something strange.

Before I tell you, I have to explain
something–“the front part” of an email
and the domain name.

Let’s look at an example email. This
email does NOT work.

davidtest@leverageteamllc.com

The davidtest is the front part. The leverageteamllc.com
is the domain. I have no idea what “the front part”
is really called.

Anyway, as I looked at my list I saw this:

crazyoldlady
manicmike
Iamcrazy
crazyoldwoman
insane247
(note, probably means 24 hours a day
7 days a week)

NOTE-
I didn’t include the domain name to protect
the privacy of each person. Plus I don’t want
a thousand people writing them.

There were TONS of these people.

I thought to myself that’s really
strange.

Why in the world would someone internalize
the worst part of bipolar disorder.

Then I thought about a whole bunch of
things in my life.

People who acted a certain way because
they thought they should be that way.

My one friend that had a tattoo that
said “simple insane” across his chest.
For years he got into so many fights
because well he thought he had to
because he was suppose to be tough.
After he stop internalizing being
“insane” he is on his way to becoming
a millionaire. He made like $500,000
last year. 10 years prior he was facing
jail time.

Another friend of mine that has a big
gigantic tattoo which I can even write
here. The tattoo means that he doesn’t
follow rules. For years he was off the wall
and always in trouble. Today, he is reformed,
getting married has a good job, but for too long
he internalized craziness.

There was a person on my list with bipolar
disorder. Her front part of her email was
like crazyjane. I first spoke to her
when I started this.

I had a long one hour talk with her and
said to her, “if you keep doing what you are
doing, you’re going to be dead.” She was shocked.
I said, “I give it straight. You are too talented
to keep acting crazy. I told her to lose the email
address. Stop acting like a fool. Follow my system
(which her parents bought for her), find a great
doctor, listen to the doctor, get a therapist,
and do good in life not bad and stupid things.

She actually listened. Today she is incredible. She
is married. Has a great job. Stable. Volunteers
to help other people with bipolar disorder out.
But for years, she internalized craziness because
she thought that’s what she was suppose to be.

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You hear story after story of people with
bipolar disorder that make this fatal mistake.
The thinking goes like this.

NOTE-I am going to say it like the person
who has bipolar note like it’s from me.

I have bipolar
Bipolar equals craziness
I am going to act crazy because I have bipolar
I am going to do everything I can to go along
with crazy things–like change the front part of
my email to have a word like crazy in it because
that’s what I am suppose to do/be

See how it works?

This is bad.

Now, one last thing. This goes along with bipolar
supporters as well. But in this way.

THE BIPOLAR SUPPORTER

The bipolar supporter can think like this
and this causes the person with bipolar disorder
to do the exact opposite of what should be done.

Things like this are said and thought by the
bipolar supporter:

-They will be “crazy” forever
-They’re so crazy
-Don’t expect much from them, they are out of it
most of the time
-You can’t count on them because they’re crazy

See how this thinking works. That’s not made up.
I hear it every single day from all different
bipolar supporters.

So in summary.

If you have bipolar disorder, don’t internalize
craziness. What kind of front part do you have
for your email? How do you think about yourself?
Do you think bipolar disorder equals crazy?

If you are a bipolar supporter, realize your
thoughts about your loved one influence him/her.
Be careful how you think about him/her.

Hey, I have to run and go to the gym. Catcha tomorrow.

One last thing, in my organization which has lots
of people with a mental illness here’s how we think

-They’re going to be smart because they have a mental
illness

-They’re going to be creative because they have a mental
illness

-They’re going to be hardworking and dedicated because
they have a mental illness

-They’re going to get things done faster because
they have a mental illness

See the difference?

Your Friend,

Dave

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  1. I completely agree with you. It is difficult to not internalize the disorder, however it can be done. I myself have bipolar as well as one of my children (among other things), it is a daily battle. To internalize it turns the battle into a war. It’s just not a good thing to do. One reason the first part of our email, nitehawknest, is what it is, we are a group and support each other.

  2. Hi David:

    Just wanted to clarify that my email address (angryaswipe)is an oxymoron. I am the most optimistic chronically depressed person you will ever find in all your wheeling and dealings. I am not angry (well until someone pushes enough of my buttons) and I take life as it comes. Thank you so very much for all your hard work and the time and money you spend in sending out the emails and the information to helps us, who want to learn more, the easy way, on being able to help our loved ones with BPD. I read your emails the 1st thing when I log on, even more important to me than checking my financial situation, because I often have to calm down 2 in my household that tend to set off each other. Then we all have a great time with me in the middle.

    Thanks again:
    Helen

  3. hi dave,
    i just love your newsletter about bipolar disorder. helps me get throught the day. my email is looney2361 because my maiden name was looney. lol! i know i was teased growing up and then about 3 years ago i was diagnosed with bipolar disorder. i dont change my email because it’s a part of my namesake. but that is a good point you made.
    ttys,
    tina

  4. Sometimes the names represent the alter-ego all us bipolars know we have… We are truly 2 different people at times, the well person and the depressed/manic person. So dont always take these monikers as a put down of ourselves just a not so humous attempt to accept our 2 so different selves..

  5. Dear Dave,

    This was a GREAT email today. I have found it an essential part of recovery to view myself as a healthy, whole person. I HAVE bipolar disorder, I am not a bipolar. Hear the difference? The first way I describe myself as someone with a chronic illness that is monitored and managed. The second way defines my essence as an illness rather than a person. If I tell someone I am bipolar then the disease overshadows the rest of me. I am a woman, a successful working classical musician, I am a daughter, someone’s romantic partner, I have brown hair and eyes, and a goofy sense of humor. In addition to that I have a chronic illness that is managed with medication, a healthy lifestyle (I don’t drink or take recreational drugs and I make sure I get plenty of sleep), rigorous self knowledge and honesty plus I have close friends and maintain an active and trusting relationship with my doctor and therapist. This did not happen overnight. It took time and learning from my mistakes. There are many folks in this world with chronic illness managed with medications and a healthy lifestyle. I’ve never heard someone say, “Hi. I’m Sam, I’m an arthritic.” Let’s call a moratorium on defining ourselves by our illness. My Mom has bipolar disorder, but to me and the rest of the world she was an office manager, a mother, a wife, a treasurer of a company, a daughter, and a brunet. She also has COPD. Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease but doesn’t define herself by that illness either. I think I’ve made my point. Dave, Thank you for pointing out a major first step towards healing and self esteem!

  6. Hi. Todays emale Dave just shows how we stigmatise our selfs we shouldn’t be we do. I geuss stigma is so insidious we do it to our selfs esspecialy when we’re first diognosed & we’re trying to come to turms with this media & community distorted view of what mental illness realy means to us.

    It’s hard not to inturnalise when your world is turned upside down by meds & a lifestile that comes with lost of side effects.

    How many self medicate to cope? If your honest I bet theres a lot of you I’m not saying this is nessisaraly a bad thing bout it unfately goes against our “image”. moderation & eridation I think are the key to socilal & personal acceptance. Not calling ourselfs names as well leave that to the bias. And remember if your going to enjoy some social lubrication… One mans medicine is an other mans poisin & know your pass & recipe.

  7. Hi David,

    I have been on your email list for some time now and have never felt like I needed to respond to your emails. However this email struck home in a big way.

    I would hope that you only get positive responses to this email because what you are saying here is so true. One term that can be used for this is “telepathic imaging”. If you have an image of a person, sometimes they behave in such a way that they reinforce your image of them. If you are supporting someone who is bi-polar and you see them as unstable, crazy, unreliable, etc they will behave that way to reinforce your image of them. This is also true of the image you have of yourself.

    Three of our employees are bi-polar. They are the best employees we’ve ever had. They are responsible, hard-working, honest and have been outstanding in their jobs. I always try to be diligent in reinforcing their behavior. They know that they are appreciated and that we respect them for the way they handle their jobs.

    My husband is also bi-polar and for years I thought that his rages were my fault – that I had somehow done something to deserve this behavior. He is now on medication and is stable. Seeking treatment for his bi-polar actually saved our marriage.

    Getting your newsletters has helped me understand my husband and our employees better. Our employees are very open about their illness and that also helps. They tell me that this is the first job they’ve had where they can be open about their situation.

  8. When I was first “signed in” on the Psychiatric Ward in 1968 – I didn’t think/know I was “crazy.” My only thought was that my surgeon had me admitted for “exhaustion.” I was in the middle of a full-blown manic episode (only they called it “schizophrenia” back then), and thought EVERYTHING was rosy and meant to be. My religiousity had gotten ahold of me, and I thought that I was on “Sibley 7 – for Heaven.”

    After I was examined, the first thing they did was give me pills. I had been told by the other patients NOT to take them, so I hid them under my mattress. Well, someone “squealed,” and I HAD to swallow them in front of the nurse. THEN I knew it was serious.

    One of the other “inmates” said to me that all of us on the Ward had a mental illness or substance abuse. I was SCARED – very, VERY scared. From that moment on, I had a label – and it was “mentally ill.” How can you AVOID internalizing your illness??!!

    Anyway, I must have been the “sickest” on the Ward, because after two months, they remanded me to the custody of my parents and we went back to IL, where I was admitted to a private psychiatric hospital not too far from where my parents lived. I was still VERY “manic” and was a patient there for another four months.

    I guess I must have “crashed” on the meds they gave me. This was before Lithium was even a glimmer in its inventor’s mind. Valium, Nembutal, and Seconal were all they used on me.

    When I first really learned I had a label like “mentally ill,” I can remember lying on my bed, crying, telling my Mom – “I’ve lost EVERYTHING. My dream job, my fiance, my apartment – what happened??!!” There were no answers. They were giving patients ECT all over the place, and I was soooo afraid they’d give me one, too. Fortunately, I WASN’T depressed at that point, so they didn’t give me one.

    I can understand why the User Name would be something like “Crazylady,” or “Insane247.” I feel it’s because if we DON’T give it a name, it will consume us. We’re “putting it out there” so it’s not SCARY anymore. The name identifies us. It tells us WE control the illness, and the illness is just an extension of our personalities. If I were braver, I might use something like “Li’lbitdamaged” for my User Name, to set me apart from the “normal” people who don’t have a diagnosis of bipolar disorder.

    But – I am PROUD of my name. I’ve overcome the disorder’s hold on me (so far!), and am, therefore, a highly-functioning person with bipolar. That DOESN’T mean I’m “healed” in ANY way, or that the disorder won’t come back when I least expect it. It just shows that I know my triggers and how to limit my stressors to give the bipolar less work on my brain chemistry!

    BIG HUGS to all those with bipolar disorder, and the ones who love us. My prayers are with Susan, who is going through a tough time. Let’s all give her our best wishes for nothing but “good thoughts” and hope. May God bless you real good.

  9. I agree with much of what you said and i think that because of society the “nametags” are used.
    As a supporter of someone with BPD I have seen and heard almost everything even from doctors, but since I have about 20 years being there I found that my bullheadedness has helped along with lots of common sense. We have had many ups and downs over the years and wasn’t diagnosed until about 5 years ago, they did have a different name for it before then but can’t remember what it was, now with the meds and regular visits to her therapist we keep going and going…
    I have been getting the newsletter for only a few months and I have found things to help but many things, to me, seem to be common sense and that does seem to be a big part of what I use when I see changes.
    Keep up the great things your doing and I’ll keep reading.
    thanks joe skidmore

  10. Now we usually choose a name for a child because we like the sound of it, while in older days we would choose a name for its meaning hoping the child would aspire to it. In some cultures, e.g. Native American, they probably still do so. It’s true that certain names and titles make certain impressions. In my experience when someone admits to being “crazy” or whatever they are usually less crazy than someone who constantly emphasises that they’re not. e.g. I used to know a woman who couldn’t tell you often enough that she was “a very down to earth person,” as she was anything but! If she really was so very down to earth people would know and she wouldn’t have to constantly remind them. If someone describes themselves as “crazy” or “insane” it usually shows that they have a sense of humour.

    The word “crazy” nowadays more often means “unconventional”, “eccentric” or even just “very lively”. Personally it would not offend me to be called “crazy” or “a bit mad”. I have been called worse (lol).

    People can call themselves what they like. Example: You’re looking for a date online and you see a user name “madhatter” and another “lonelyguy”. I know which one I would pick. “madhatter” to me suggests someone who is lively, fun, interesting, while “lonelyguy” would usually be someone fairly dull.

    I think Suzanne is right, by describing yourself as “crazy” etc. you’re controlling bipolar instead of bipolar controlling you.

  11. David,

    Thank you so much for your last e-mail. It was just what the doctor ordered. I am writing this as my mother is dying in the next room. We don’t think she will make it through the night. I have two sisters. They are in the other romm sleeping. They are the “normal” two. They are married with children. I am the baby of the family. I am 33yrs old and have never been married or had kids. I have tried to be very responsible about not getting pregant too. My doctors have told me that it is something I need to plan for with my medications. I am seen as the “sick” one. Through this process of my mother dying( I have been taking care of her for the last two years- which my sisters said I should be because I am not married w/kids), my opinions do not matter. They are condicending and at times my one sister is down right mean. Tonight as my mother is in the other room dying, she tells me I shouldn’t have kids, that it would be selfish. That don’t I know what it would do to a child if I ended up back in the hospital. My hearts desire has always been to get married and have kids. I have not married or had kids so far because I want to do it right. I want to have a stable life. I have grown so much and now that it has been almost two years since my last hospialization, I feel I am finally ready to start that journey. I am dating a successful and kind man. I don’t know if he is the one but I am keeping my options open. Now that the time of taking care of my mother is at its closing, I can start a new chapter-and the skys the limit. My whole point is that my sisters attitudes and actions have been so hurtful and damaging.(especially during this time). I don’t want to be viewed or treated as the “sick,crazy” one anymore. I have worked hard to manage my bipolar and be a respected member of society. I deserve to be treated with repect, I have earned it- and even if I didn’t I’m still a human being with feelings.

  12. Fortunately my daughter’s many email addresses do not have anything to do with any type of mental illness. Her most recent and most used name is: oookthen@gmail, short for oh, oh, ok then I will do it. Because I gently nag her into doing something and that is what she says every time. She has a pretty good sense of humor most of the time. My daughter and my Nephew are basically like twins, except different parents of course and they come up with the silliest, but very creative email names.

  13. Dave,
    You nailed it, it’s all how you look at life and it problems within it that make all the difference. It’s unbelieveably hard not to think you are suppose to act the part when you are told over and over your are crazy.
    Being Bp is no joke and it’s not something you want everyone to know about cuz then i think you become worse in depression ect.
    Even when people are just kidding around and laughing ppl say “your crazy” but then the BP stops laughing and feels the title coming across their forehead for all to see (even though it’s not really there) it’s a simple word with more than one meaning. But a powerful one.
    love and peace to all.

  14. Hi Dave,
    First I just want to tell you thanks for the daily emails. They really seem to give hope to an incredibly frustrating situation. I had just got out of the “hospital” in April of this year and was doing well with my meds, when my husband had to leave his job due to the threat of his company closing due to bankrupcy. Anyway, switching jobs meant either pay over $1000 a month for the insurance to carryover (which we could not afford) or go without. It was a extremely hard time for myself, but probably mostly my family. I am amazed they stuck by me, but God blessed me with an amazing family. Last month I finally decided I was either going to call a doctor and get an appointment right away, or I was going to be right back in the hospital. I am glad to report that I found a wonderful doctor that does not want to over medicate me as they have done in the past, but actually wants to help me live a better life. I have also gained a great therapist that I know actually cares about what I am going through. It is a struggle somedays, but I finally have hope.
    As far as the bipolar internalizing me, I have finally learned to embrace my illness. And have finally come to terms with being ok with myself. For so long I would stop taking my meds because I wanted to be “normal” all by myself. It was so frustrating that I could not control my behaviors. Over and over this cycle went until one day I really thought about what I was doing. I had been telling myself all this time that if I could be “tough” enough I could handle this on my own with no help from anyone. Well after “waking up” being married for the third time at 26 and having seen the stress my mood swings had put on my children, I decided that it wasn’t fair to anyone, not even myself.
    Believe me this took a LONG time to finally hit me.
    Don’t get me wrong, making the decision that I have Bipolar was hard. However, I now know that I will have this “illness” for the rest of my life, and that is ok. I am a very creative person, and I can relate to people on a level most cannot. I understand that this is not my fault, but I know I have it now and it is my responsibility to take care of myself. The medications do make a difference, and like it or not I really do need them.
    I would love to tell you that everything is great now, but even just yesterday, I lost another friend. She had been like a sister to me, and I really did love her like family. Well, after seeing me in different stages of the disorder, she decided that I am not the person she had come to love.
    I started to get upset when she told me this, but you know what?? It’s ok. I am a great person, whether she sees it or not. I am ok with myself now. It’s ok with me to be called “crazy”, “crazy bitch”, or “f****** crazy”, “psycho”, or whatever because you know, there are always going to be those people that treat you different, or even bad sometimes when they find out you are bipolar. But the thing is, I don’t care. The only thing that matters to me know is that my family and I are healthy and happy. Now that I have decided to embrace the “crazy” person I know I am, I can FINALLY live my life. I no longer have to fight who I really am. I don’t have to hate myself for being different, and I know it’s ok to need help. I just hope that if someone is going through this “denial” stage, they can see this and realize it’s ok to be yourself, that God made you how you are for a reason. You don’t have to understand why, just know that you have something inside yourself that help you get through it, whether you believe it or not.
    Well, after all that, the point I wanted to make is: for me telling myself I was “crazy” or “sick” helped me realize that I wasn’t doing anything wrong. I have bipolar disorder, borderline personality disorder, Post traumatic stress disorder, and probably a little obsessive compulsive disorder thrown in 🙂
    And that’s ok. You can like me or not, it’s part of me. Now that I know that, I can be happy with who I am, and accept the help that has been offered to me. Thanks again for the emails.

  15. CASSIDYCLASSY, Gathering from your message you are very stable and sensible, as well as very caring. Sorry to hear about your mother. If your sisters are not very understanding or helpful you may want to speak to a close friend or contact a bereavement counsellor or therapist instead of spending time with them. (My sister and I have never seen eye to eye in anything, so I know what you feel like).

    You are very responsible with all the right plans. My boyfriend and a couple of his siblings have bipolar, but neither of his parents had it. So, these genes are not necessarily passed on directly but may skip a generation. Your children may inherit your other good qualities and be as caring and sensible as you are, with or without bipolar.

    I hope you will meet a really nice man soon (if you haven’t already) and have the happy life you deserve. I wish you all the best.

  16. Hi Dave,perhaps these folks have not yet been experienced in the devastating impact on their reality that “crazy” can do. Experience is what you get when you dont get what you want. Myself I have been experienced, I always tell myself you can to it, the harder you fight the harder it is to surrender, I will work again. I am separate from my illness. I have a mental illness I struggle with, I am not crazy, insane, I have an illness. Thanks Dave, Karen

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