{"id":5584,"date":"2007-05-05T08:52:00","date_gmt":"2007-05-05T12:52:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.bipolarsupporter.com\/bipolarsupporterblog\/supporting-someone-with-bipolar-disorder-making-this-huge-mistake\/"},"modified":"2007-05-05T08:52:00","modified_gmt":"2007-05-05T12:52:00","slug":"supporting-someone-with-bipolar-disorder-making-this-huge-mistake","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.bipolarsupporter.com\/bipolarsupporterblog\/supporting-someone-with-bipolar-disorder-making-this-huge-mistake\/","title":{"rendered":"Supporting Someone with bipolar disorder? Making this huge mistake?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Hi,<\/p>\n<p>I am running late today. It sure it hard to get up<br \/>at 6:00am on a Saturday morning. Oh well at least<br \/>I am young and I will bounce back (that&#8217;s<br \/>what older people tell me anyway).<\/p>\n<p>Today I wanted to share a huge lesson with<br \/>you related to bipolar disorder. Actually<br \/>I was thinking about it yesterday when<br \/>I got a call. Actually if you tried to<br \/>call me yesterday I had 57 messages.<br \/>Two of my phone voicemails were 100% full.<br \/>It&#8217;s not because of anything related to<br \/>bipolar disorder or my mom but because<br \/>of a big problem I am having in one of<br \/>my businesses that I use to support this<br \/>organization.<\/p>\n<p>Anyway that&#8217;s not important to you unless<br \/>you tried to call which some did in regards<br \/>to the job positions I posted online. If<br \/>you did, and couldn&#8217;t leave a message yesterday,<br \/>today you can.<\/p>\n<p>Okay I am going to ask you&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>ARE YOU MAKING THIS MISTAKE WITH YOUR LOVED ONE<br \/>WITH BIPOLAR DISORDER?<\/p>\n<p>Yesterday I got a call from someone. She wanted<br \/>to return one thing she got from me. She<br \/>asked, where do you send it back. I told her.<br \/>Then since I get virtually no returns because<br \/>my material is really good if I do say so<br \/>myself (NO, this isn&#8217;t a sign that I have<br \/>a personality disorder where the person says<br \/>his\/her work is good LOL).<\/p>\n<p>She said it was good but her brother said<br \/>to send it back immediately. She said<br \/>the brother didn&#8217;t want her to have it.<\/p>\n<p>NOTE-She is the supporter, the brother<br \/>has bipolar disorder.<\/p>\n<p>I was totally shocked. I thought I was<br \/>confused, I asked &#8220;So, your brother<br \/>has bipolar disorder?&#8221; She said yes.<\/p>\n<p>I said, &#8220;And he doesn&#8217;t want you to have<br \/>my material related to bipolar disorder?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>She said yes. I said, &#8220;And he has bipolar<br \/>disorder which is a mental illness and a<br \/>mood disorder and he is probably in an<br \/>episode and you are listening to him, because?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>She didn&#8217;t reply. Then all of a sudden she said<br \/>&#8220;I gotta go, he&#8217;s coming. bye&#8221; and she hung<br \/>up.<\/p>\n<p>It was the strangest thing ever. I sat in my<br \/>chair amazed. I had some many thoughts<br \/>related to bipolar disorder going through<br \/>my head. It sure didn&#8217;t help me when I had<br \/>to do some consulting with one of my other<br \/>businesses where I was suppose to be talking<br \/>about China and it&#8217;s growth prospects through<br \/>consumer direct marketing.<\/p>\n<p>Anyway, I though all day about this. Things like:<\/p>\n<p>How do you let the person with bipolar disorder<br \/>dictate what information you as a supporter<br \/>should have<\/p>\n<p>Why did she tell her brother she had the material<br \/>if he would get mad<\/p>\n<p>Why didn&#8217;t she just say I sent it back and<br \/>really keep it (NO, I am not in it for the<br \/>money I am saying this so the woman had<br \/>some information to take control of the<br \/>situation).<\/p>\n<p>I wonder what&#8217;s going to happen to her<\/p>\n<p>I wonder if he has hit her, she sounded<br \/>really afraid when she said &#8220;He&#8217;s coming.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Should I have put a bigger disclaimer in my<br \/>material that says &#8220;CONSIDER NOT telling<br \/>your loved one about this package if<br \/>you even think he\/she will get mad at<br \/>you.&#8221; I already have this now you<br \/>know if you got my courses\/systems<br \/>but I wonder if it should be bigger.<\/p>\n<p>I must say, I was AMAZED. So amazed<br \/>I called a number of people and told<br \/>them what happen.<\/p>\n<p>I called my dad and he said something<br \/>that was really strange to me.<\/p>\n<p>Take a wild guess what he said and<br \/>then scroll down&#8230;.<\/p>\n<p>SCROLL PLEASE&#8230;.<\/p>\n<p>My dad said to me &#8220;I use to do the same<br \/>thing. I know exactly what she is thinking<br \/>and it&#8217;s wrong. That&#8217;s one reason I<br \/>never could beat this in 40 years. I<br \/>let your mother dictate to me whenever<br \/>she was in an episode. I always listened<br \/>to her no matter what she said even if<br \/>it was wrong.<\/p>\n<p>My dad told me to call the lady back and<br \/>tell him his story. I said, &#8220;Dad I can&#8217;t<br \/>I don&#8217;t make unsolicited phone calls<br \/>like that.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>He said to me &#8220;Tomorrow you should tell<br \/>your people on your thing take control<br \/>of the situation when your loved one<br \/>has bipolar disorder and is an episode.<br \/>And when you know in your heart something<br \/>is good for them, do it.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>First my dad calls you all &#8220;my people.&#8221;<br \/>He calls my newsletter list &#8220;that thing.&#8221;<br \/>He doesn&#8217;t get the entire internet thing.<br \/>It&#8217;s a mystery to him.<\/p>\n<p>Anyway as I look back, he is right. There<br \/>were so many times my dad bent to my mom&#8217;s<br \/>bipolar disorder.<\/p>\n<p>When my mom was in a bipolar disorder<br \/>episode over the years:<\/p>\n<p>We didn&#8217;t eat together because she said<br \/>no<\/p>\n<p>We didn&#8217;t have vacations because she said<br \/>no<\/p>\n<p>She was allowed to scream and yell at us<br \/>as little kids. My dad didn&#8217;t stop her or<br \/>know how to<\/p>\n<p>She spends tons and tons of money<\/p>\n<p>Getting more and more cred.it c.ards<\/p>\n<p>Getting more and more shopping catalogs<br \/>to buy more and more things from<\/p>\n<p>She quit jobs and then we had no health<br \/>insurance and had to get on plans that cost<br \/>a ton until she got another job only to<br \/>do the same thing over again<\/p>\n<p>I couldn&#8217;t go over certain friends houses<br \/>because my mom said no for no reason<\/p>\n<p>My mom wouldn&#8217;t let my dad talk to her<br \/>doctor. NOTE-Now I have a 100% guaranteed<br \/>way to talk to a loved one&#8217;s doctor<br \/>even if no permission is given. It&#8217;s in my<br \/>supporter course\/system.<\/p>\n<p>My mom threw my brother out of the house<br \/>at the age of 18. For no reason. She was<br \/>in a major episode.<\/p>\n<p>The list goes on and on and on.<\/p>\n<p>I remember when I was applying to college<br \/>my mom went into an episode and demanded<br \/>that I got to a 2 year county college instead of<br \/>a top 4 year school. It made no sense at all.<\/p>\n<p>Thanks to my brother I went to the right<br \/>school. Today my mom thanks him as well<br \/>because she says she was sick then and<br \/>not thinking right. If my brother didn&#8217;t<br \/>step in, I would have gone to county. My<br \/>dad would not have said a word.<\/p>\n<p>My dad didn&#8217;t say anything. My brother stepped<br \/>in and blasted my mom. My brother at the time was<br \/>330 pounds and a really big football player.<\/p>\n<p>For whatever reason, my mom&#8217;s bipolar disorder<br \/>never yells at my brother. It&#8217;s really strange.<br \/>After my brother was thrown out of the house<br \/>and got bigger and bigger. My mom never<br \/>yelled at him. Ever in an episode.<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s like her bipolar disorder knows<br \/>who to do what with. My dad is 280 but<br \/>way out of shape. That&#8217;s being kind. He is<br \/>shorter than my brother. My mom has and<br \/>did scream him into submission in episodes.<\/p>\n<p>With me, screaming doesn&#8217;t work. She could<br \/>scream, yell and say all kinds of things<br \/>and it doesn&#8217;t work. I noticed with time,<br \/>in episodes she would scream at my dad<br \/>and cry with me.<\/p>\n<p>Honestly it all makes it look like it&#8217;s an<br \/>act even though it&#8217;s not. My aunt thinks<br \/>it is. I on the other hand believe that<br \/>it&#8217;s not. I believe that mental illness<br \/>is so complex we can&#8217;t figure out why<br \/>the people do what the do. There is<br \/>no clear explanation. So if you are looking<br \/>for one, you are probably going to frustrate<br \/>yourself. Once you know something is<br \/>the way it is, just deal with it. Don&#8217;t<br \/>try to know the why.<\/p>\n<p>Anyway, back to the story. The big lesson<br \/>is, if you are supporting a loved one<br \/>with bipolar disorder and this person<br \/>is an episode, you can&#8217;t let them dictate<br \/>to you what should be done. This is a mental<br \/>illness. a Mind illness. A mood disorder.<\/p>\n<p>Does it make any sense to let someone not<br \/>in his\/her right mind to make decisions?<br \/>No it doesn&#8217;t.<\/p>\n<p>And I know I am going to get flooded with<br \/>hate mail from some people with bipolar disorder<br \/>that say I am going to hell, I am a horrible<br \/>person because I said this. Some with<br \/>bipolar disorder think they should be able<br \/>to do whatever they want, whenever they<br \/>want when they are in episodes. That makes<br \/>no sense.<\/p>\n<p>My mom today is happy that I didn&#8217;t let her<br \/>destroy herself, not go to the hospital,<br \/>keep spending on her credit cards. A month<br \/>ago, she thanked me. Here&#8217;s the email I got:<\/p>\n<p>From:<br \/>Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 2:30 PM<br \/>To: David Oliver<br \/>Subject: Good News<\/p>\n<p>Chase credit card statement came in today and all<br \/>that is owed is $156.56. I have been trying to pay<br \/>this off for over 25 years.<\/p>\n<p>Thanks to your help-this will be the second card<br \/>paid off since 2004.<\/p>\n<p>I appreciate you making this system for me to<br \/>get out of de.bt even though I didn&#8217;t want<br \/>it at first. It is a challenge sometime<br \/>but I have learned from you how important<br \/>it is to watch those pennies and save them.<br \/>Also, do no use credit cards-I do not like<br \/>to touch them-they make me nervous.<br \/>-Mom<\/p>\n<p>Actually when my mom got out of the hospital<br \/>I took away all her c.redit cards. It was<br \/>tough. My dad wouldn&#8217;t do it. He was afraid.<br \/>He asked me to. Which is fine. And yes<br \/>this doesn&#8217;t make 100% sense for me to<br \/>do but not him and that certainly DOES mean<br \/>he has some issues since he gets me<br \/>to do these things. I know I know for<br \/>all the therapists reading this.<\/p>\n<p>Anyway I did and my mom went ballistic. She<br \/>called and cried and said I was taking<br \/>away her dignity. She called everyone<br \/>and said I was a terrible son and evil.<\/p>\n<p>It never phased me. She didn&#8217;t get them.<\/p>\n<p>I then created a system to help her get<br \/>out of debt. It&#8217;s actually here<br \/><a href=\"http:\/\/www.bipolarcentral.com\/debtletter\">http:\/\/www.bipolarcentral.com\/debtletter<\/a><\/p>\n<p>She has done a GREAT job. She will<br \/>be out of d.ebt by the end of the year. First<br \/>time in 30 years according to my dad. She<br \/>paid off $30,000 d.ebt by herself.<\/p>\n<p>As you can tell, she is happy with my<br \/>system :). I worked hard at it.<\/p>\n<p>Anyway, bottom line is, don\u2019t let the person<br \/>ill dictate what you are going to do. They<br \/>will want you to NOT do anything to help<br \/>them when they are in bipolar disorder<br \/>episodes and sick. Remember that.<\/p>\n<p>You can&#8217;t ask them when they are sick. Do<br \/>what you think is right. I feel bad for the<br \/>lady that I spoke to yesterday. She is probably<br \/>doomed to failure with her loved one. He was<br \/>probably destroy her over time. Sad but<br \/>true.<\/p>\n<p>Well I have to run. If you want more information<br \/>on how to effectively supporting someone<br \/>with bipolar disorder or you need help for<br \/>yourself. Take a look at my stuff if you want.<br \/>I am not pushing it on you. It&#8217;s just an option.<\/p>\n<p>SUPPORTING AN ADULT?<br \/>Visit:<br \/><a href=\"http:\/\/www.bipolarsupporter.com\/report11\">http:\/\/www.bipolarsupporter.com\/report11<\/a><br \/>SUPPORTING A CHILD\/TEEN?<br \/>Visit:<br \/><a href=\"http:\/\/www.bipolarparenting.com\/\">http:\/\/www.bipolarparenting.com<\/a><br \/>HAVE BIPOLAR DISORDER?<br \/>Visit:<br \/><a href=\"http:\/\/www.survivebipolar.net\">http:\/\/www.survivebipolar.net<\/a><\/p>\n<p>See you tomorrow.<\/p>\n<p>Your Friend,<\/p>\n<p>Dave<\/p>\n<p>P.S. Check out my F.ree blog with copies of emails<br \/>that I have sent in the past and lots of great<br \/>information for you:<br \/><a href=\"http:\/\/www.bipolarcentral.com\/supporterblog\/\">http:\/\/www.bipolarcentral.com\/supporterblog\/<\/a><\/p>\n<p>P.P.S Check out my F.ree podcast. 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