{"id":5557,"date":"2007-05-31T08:00:00","date_gmt":"2007-05-31T12:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.bipolarsupporter.com\/bipolarsupporterblog\/warning-making-this-huge-mistake-with-bipolar-disorder\/"},"modified":"2007-05-31T08:00:00","modified_gmt":"2007-05-31T12:00:00","slug":"warning-making-this-huge-mistake-with-bipolar-disorder","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.bipolarsupporter.com\/bipolarsupporterblog\/warning-making-this-huge-mistake-with-bipolar-disorder\/","title":{"rendered":"Warning! Making this huge mistake with bipolar disorder?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Hi,<\/p>\n<p>How are you?<\/p>\n<p>I just got back and I am dead tired.<br \/>Remember I was at that conference. Anyway,<br \/>it went really well. I will write you some<br \/>things that I learned that will be useful<br \/>to you after I review my notes.<\/p>\n<p>In the meantime, I have any important<br \/>lesson to tell you about bipolar disorder.<\/p>\n<p>Last night I was checking my voicemail<br \/>and I had dozens of messages. Just hearing<br \/>you have 31 new messages is enough to make<br \/>you want to run away :).<\/p>\n<p>So I took at my message taking note book<br \/>so I could record who called and what time<br \/>and what the message was.<\/p>\n<p>The first one was Jim from Chrysler Dodge<br \/>trying to get me to change me oil.<\/p>\n<p>But message number two was a huge problem.<\/p>\n<p>It was a 8 minute and 23 second message<br \/>from someone who&#8217;s loved one has<br \/>bipolar disorder. I could barely<br \/>hear the person but it was an incredibly<br \/>long and painful monologue about how<br \/>this person&#8217;s spouse has created all<br \/>these problems and is destroying her<br \/>life. She mentioned a number of<br \/>things that he did wrong and were<br \/>problematic.<\/p>\n<p>I must say it was painful. Part of me<br \/>just wanted to delete the message because<br \/>after 7 minutes I didn&#8217;t even know what<br \/>the question was or how long it would<br \/>go on.<\/p>\n<p>Finally the message ended and the person<br \/>said, &#8220;Help me&#8221; and left her phone number.<\/p>\n<p>I was amazed.<\/p>\n<p>Then I went to message number 3. You&#8217;re<br \/>not going to believe this. It was a totally<br \/>different person supporting a loved one with<br \/>bipolar disorder. This message was 6 minutes.<\/p>\n<p>BIPOLAR LESSON COMING SOON&#8230; HANG IN THERE<\/p>\n<p>Then I went to message 4 and it was someone<br \/>who was supporting a child with bipolar disorder.<br \/>This message was the longest I think ever 12 minutes<br \/>long. It was seriously a long message. If you<br \/>looked up long message in the dictionary that<br \/>message should be transcribed.<\/p>\n<p>It ended with &#8220;help me&#8221; and a phone number.<\/p>\n<p>I was so tired I simply gave up with dealing<br \/>with voice messages for the night.<\/p>\n<p>Then I got to thinking about exactly what<br \/>I did when I was first supporting my mom<br \/>with bipolar disorder. If you remember I<br \/>had no clue at all what to do.<\/p>\n<p>So I made a plan. I called already and<br \/>I asked specific questions and listened<br \/>to what people had to say. Most people<br \/>had no idea what to do because I was<br \/>asking the wrong people. BUT when I found<br \/>the right person for a specific problem<br \/>that I was dealing with, I asked<br \/>specific questions and I got specific<br \/>answers. AND I took notes as well. And<br \/>then I let the person go quickly.<\/p>\n<p>I always followed with, would you mind<br \/>if I had another quick concise question,<br \/>I give you a call? The person in every<br \/>case said yes.<\/p>\n<p>Now after I thought about all of this,<br \/>my past experience and the 3 messages I<br \/>got dealing with bipolar disorder. NOTE<br \/>I don&#8217;t even know if I have 25 more like<br \/>this. It&#8217;s going to be a long day probably.<\/p>\n<p>Thank God I have a new woman that I hired<br \/>taking over these messages. There are just<br \/>too many and it&#8217;s killing my ability to run<br \/>all my businesses.<\/p>\n<p>Anyway, back to what I was saying. So,<br \/>there is a huge problem that I see<br \/>people who have bipolar disorder AND people<br \/>who are supporting people with bipolar disorder<br \/>make.<\/p>\n<p>That&#8217;s the long rambling non specific I need<br \/>help story.<\/p>\n<p>Are you thinking, &#8220;Dave, what the heck is that?&#8221;<br \/>If you are new to the list, you might be thinking,<br \/>&#8220;This guy&#8217;s emails are really strange and he writes<br \/>weird, maybe he&#8217;s crazy&#8230;but I will keep reading<br \/>because I think he might have a good point.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>I do have a good point. Here it is. If you look<br \/>at everyone who can help you with bipolar disorder,<br \/>doctors, therapists, insurance people, other<br \/>supporters, employment specialists, myself,<br \/>so on and so forth, we all have one thing in<br \/>common&#8211;we only have so many hours each day.<\/p>\n<p>The doctor has 24 hours in a day. The insurance<br \/>person has the same. I have the same. Everyone<br \/>has the same.<\/p>\n<p>In addition, many people want to help people.<br \/>They really do. BUT the problem is, there are<br \/>generally lots of other people that need<br \/>help as well and all asking. What do you do?<\/p>\n<p>Well here is what you do, you drop the long<br \/>sad rambling story (sorry to be blunt), because<br \/>anyone in this field has heard it probably between<br \/>200 and 5000 times. I personally can honestly<br \/>say that I have heard the same stories at least 2000<br \/>times.<\/p>\n<p>You might think that I am crazy or making this<br \/>number up. Keep in mind that I volunteer at<br \/>3 bipolar disorder support groups, I have a<br \/>huge list, I take my own calls, read my own<br \/>mail, take orders for my courses\/systems over<br \/>the phone and have been doing this for 2 years.<\/p>\n<p>At first I use to feel bad when I would try<br \/>to speed people along to get to the question<br \/>or specific problem and avoid the story.<\/p>\n<p>But then after I have burned up so much of my<br \/>time it&#8217;s a requirement. I will not listen to<br \/>really long sad stories. I get to the bottom<br \/>line. If you have been on the phone with me<br \/>for one of my f.ree consultation certificates<br \/>for NON medical and NON legal questions (because<br \/>I am not a doctor, therapist, lawyer, insurance<br \/>person, etc.) you know that I constantly ask, &#8220;<br \/>What&#8217;s your biggest problem?&#8221; And I strive<br \/>to get you back on track.<\/p>\n<p>Some people might think this is mean but I have<br \/>to do it, other wise I will go insane and broke.<br \/>How? Well I will start to hear the same stories<br \/>over and over again because for the most part<br \/>bipolar disorder runs a certain course. Generally<br \/>speaking the stories are almost the same.<\/p>\n<p>They go like this, &#8220;my loved one is such a<br \/>great person and so smart. Really smart. But<br \/>then when he\/she is off it&#8217;s a nightmare. They<br \/>are like a different person. They did <insert>and I couldn&#8217;t believe it<br \/>they never would have ever done things like<br \/>this unless they were off.<\/p>\n<p>They spent <insert>and we are really<br \/>mad. It&#8217;s destroyed us. I can&#8217;t take it any<br \/>more&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>I have personally heard this type of story at least<br \/>2000 times.<\/p>\n<p>WARNING<\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s the problem. You have to get specific. I know<br \/>that a lot of this is painful and you need someone<br \/>to vent to and there are people for that. But many<br \/>people that can help you have limited time<br \/>and we are dealing with many other people. ESPECIALLY<br \/>the doctors they have super limited time so you<br \/>have to get really specific with them to maximize what<br \/>they can do for you.<\/p>\n<p>If you notice in my courses and systems I talk<br \/>about a way to get extra time for doctors\/therapists.<br \/>It involves using a note book, email, phone calls,<br \/>etc.<\/p>\n<p>SUPPORTING AN ADULT?<br \/>Visit:<br \/><a href=\"http:\/\/www.bipolarsupporter.com\/report11\">http:\/\/www.bipolarsupporter.com\/report11<\/a><\/p>\n<p>SUPPORTING A CHILD\/TEEN?<br \/>Visit:<br \/><a href=\"http:\/\/www.bipolarparenting.com\/\">http:\/\/www.bipolarparenting.com\/<\/a><\/p>\n<p>HAVE BIPOLAR DISORDER?<br \/>Visit:<br \/><a href=\"http:\/\/www.survivebipolar.net\/\">http:\/\/www.survivebipolar.net\/<\/a><\/p>\n<p>To make a long story short, you make your<br \/>questions before the appointment, make them<br \/>super clear and then give them to the doctor<br \/>before the appointment. It&#8217;s more complicated<br \/>than that but I don&#8217;t have time to write it<br \/>all out. NO I am not trying to force you to<br \/>buy my courses\/systems I am just making a point.<\/p>\n<p>Anyway, the other day I sent a email out<br \/>about making a list of the problems that you have<br \/>and being specific.<\/p>\n<p>There are so many people on my list that<br \/>do NOT have a specific list for problems<br \/>they have. Each time they ask anyone<br \/>for help, they start with a really, really<br \/>long story and that makes people not want<br \/>to help because they have limited time<br \/>and don&#8217;t want to get trapped having to<br \/>hear a 1 hour story.<\/p>\n<p>Anyway, people wrote me back about my daily<br \/>email about making a specific list of problems<br \/>as &#8220;too simple&#8221; and so wanted to know<br \/>when I was going to send &#8220;the good stuff.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>That is the good stuff. RIGHT NOW I want<br \/>you to make a list of your problems and what<br \/>you specifically need help with. I don&#8217;t<br \/>want you to go to doctors, therapists,<br \/>finance people, hospitals, etc being<br \/>a rambler.<\/p>\n<p>Let others be the rambler. I want you<br \/>to stand out and be the person<br \/>that has specific questions that<br \/>you need help with.<\/p>\n<p>The more specific you get, the better<br \/>the response you will get.<\/p>\n<p>Then you won&#8217;t feel so frustrated all<br \/>the time.<\/p>\n<p>Well I have to go now. I hope all this<br \/>made sense. A lot of this is hard<br \/>to write about but easy to talk about<br \/>but since I don&#8217;t own my own radio<br \/>show, I can&#8217;t talk about it.<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s all in my courses however if you<br \/>are interested. Well write me some feedback<br \/>if you understand what I was trying to say<br \/>today.<\/p>\n<p>Wish me luck on my probably now 40 voice<br \/>mail messages.<\/p>\n<p>Your Friend,<\/p>\n<p>Dave<\/p>\n<p>P.S. Check out my F.ree blog with copies of emails<br \/>that I have sent in the past and lots of great<br \/>information for you:<br \/><a href=\"http:\/\/www.bipolarcentral.com\/supporterblog\/\">http:\/\/www.bipolarcentral.com\/supporterblog\/<\/a><\/p>\n<p>P.P.S Check out my F.ree podcast. Hear me give<br \/>mini seminars designed to teach you information<br \/>you can&#8217;t learn anywhere else.<br \/><a href=\"http:\/\/bipolarcentral.libsyn.com\/\">http:\/\/bipolarcentral.libsyn.com\/<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Hi,<\/p>\n<p>How are you?<\/p>\n<p>I just got back and I am dead tired.<br \/>Remember I was at that conference. Anyway,<br \/>it went really well. 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