{"id":5509,"date":"2007-07-18T07:24:00","date_gmt":"2007-07-18T11:24:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.bipolarsupporter.com\/bipolarsupporterblog\/bipolar-disorder-warning-dont-let-them-turn-it-on-you\/"},"modified":"2007-07-18T07:24:00","modified_gmt":"2007-07-18T11:24:00","slug":"bipolar-disorder-warning-dont-let-them-turn-it-on-you","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.bipolarsupporter.com\/bipolarsupporterblog\/bipolar-disorder-warning-dont-let-them-turn-it-on-you\/","title":{"rendered":"Bipolar Disorder Warning? Don&#8217;t let them turn it on you"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Hi,<\/p>\n<p>How&#8217;s it going today? Yesterday something<br \/>happen to me that happens all the time<br \/>when people are dealing with bipolar disorder<br \/>or mental health in general. I call it<br \/>&#8220;the turn around.&#8221; <\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s kind of funny but I like to give things<br \/>names. My friends make fun of me about that.<\/p>\n<p>Let me explain what happen and then explain<br \/>what the turn around is. Okay, I am currently<br \/>moving. If you have been on my list for more<br \/>than a week, you are probably really tired<br \/>of me talking about it. <\/p>\n<p>You might think, &#8220;Dave I am tired of<br \/>you moving, I wish you would just move,<br \/>what the heck is wrong with you?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>I don&#8217;t know what&#8217;s wrong with me either.<br \/>The move has taken way longer. It&#8217;s because<br \/>there are a bunch of people involved and<br \/>each one has let me know. Well not everyone<br \/>but most of the people. Anyway, let me get<br \/>to the important bipolar disorder warning.<\/p>\n<p>So yesterday I went into a big store that<br \/>was suppose to measure my window and make<br \/>my blinds. I started this entire process<br \/>July 3, 2007. I just got my measurements<br \/>for the blinds yesterday. It&#8217;s only suppose<br \/>to take like 3 to 4 days. That&#8217;s it.<br \/>I had to call the store maybe 7 to 8 times<br \/>and go by and try to hunt down the measuring<br \/>people or people with the information. I made<br \/>about 4 trips with the right people being<br \/>&#8220;out&#8221;, &#8220;sick&#8221;, &#8220;on lunch&#8221;, etc.<\/p>\n<p>So yesterday I was super mad. I called up<br \/>the manager of the store and I got the<br \/>operations person. To make a really long<br \/>story, I explain what happen from a to<br \/>z with a time line. Guess what? He turns<br \/>it around on me. He did the turn around.<br \/>The sad part is, I know what happens in<br \/>mental health with let&#8217;s say bipolar disorder.<br \/>How the turn around is used all the time,<br \/>but I wasn&#8217;t expecting it. So I kind of<br \/>got caught off guard until about 25 minutes<br \/>into the conversation.<\/p>\n<p>Basically he said that it was my fault<br \/>because it took so long. And there was the<br \/>4th of the July holiday and I didn&#8217;t<br \/>give the store the right phone number. And<br \/>I didn&#8217;t come into the store fast enough. And<br \/>if one measuring person was taking too long<br \/>then I could have requested another one (like<br \/>I would know that), on and on and on. <\/p>\n<p>He basically talked down to me like I had no<br \/>clue and then kept saying, &#8220;I don&#8217;t know why<br \/>you are getting so wound up.&#8221; Hmmm. Maybe<br \/>because I spent money to get some stuff and<br \/>it took like 12 days longer than they told me<br \/>it should.<\/p>\n<p>Then I used a technique you should and probably<br \/>are going to have to use for bipolar disorder.<br \/>As this person was talking to me I finally realized<br \/>he is no different than a bad mental health worker\/<br \/>provider so I prepared to treatment this way.<\/p>\n<p>I finally said, &#8220;Dave (that was his name too), <br \/>you seem to be doing something I call the turn<br \/>around in mental health terms. You are not<br \/>taking responsibility for what&#8217;s been going on<br \/>and turning it around on me the customer. I have<br \/>not done and thing wrong and you are suppose<br \/>to be about customer service. You have failed.<br \/>Because I run several mental health sites including<br \/>one that gets over 1 million visitors a year, I am<br \/>an expert at dealing with very difficult people<br \/>who don&#8217;t accept responsibility for a given matter.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>I then asked him for:<\/p>\n<p>His first and last name<br \/>His title<br \/>His boss&#8217;s name<br \/>And thanked him for his time. I then indicated that I would<br \/>be calling corporate to get a third party to evaluate the<br \/>situation and the timeline to help figure out what should<br \/>be done since he was turning it around on me. I told him<br \/>how I was going to write probably a 3 to 5 page letter<br \/>by tomorrow and send and call as well.<\/p>\n<p>I noted that I had times\/dates and people. I then asked<br \/>several times if he was new to being a manager<br \/>because he seemed to have a different philosophy<br \/>then most people that do customer service or are in<br \/>charge of a store.<\/p>\n<p>IMMEDIATELY he changed his tune. He said, &#8220;Well you<br \/>don&#8217;t have to do all that. What will make you happy?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>I told him. I want my measuring fee back, I want<br \/>the right measurements and I want some to give me<br \/>the right estimate on how much my blinds are<br \/>going to cost and to sit with me for 10 minutes<br \/>to make sure I am getting the right stuff. I know<br \/>NOTHING about blinds.<\/p>\n<p>He said &#8220;oh, okay, no problem.&#8221; So it was done. <br \/>It took 5 minutes after I got tough with him.<\/p>\n<p>LESSONS TO LEARN FOR BIPOLAR DISORDER<\/p>\n<p>I really want to warn you. And I am not kidding<br \/>around. You will find in mental health you&#8217;re<br \/>going to get the turn around all the time. People<br \/>in mental health almost never accept responsibility.<br \/>And if you have bipolar disorder, it&#8217;s worse. It&#8217;s<br \/>so easy to blame it on you because you have a mental<br \/>illness. <\/p>\n<p>If anything goes wrong, most places and people in<br \/>mental health will simply try to turn it around<br \/>on you, blame you, make you go away WITHOUT what<br \/>you should or what you really want and beat<br \/>you into the ground while making you feel dumb.<br \/>This is the truth. I am going to get tons of<br \/>hate mail from people who work in the field<br \/>telling me that what I say is not true.<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s true. <\/p>\n<p>So, here&#8217;s what you do. When you are going<br \/>to deal with someone for a mental health related<br \/>issue like:<\/p>\n<p>Why medication was wrong<br \/>Why a prescription wasn&#8217;t filled<br \/>Why an insurance bill was not paid or overcharged<br \/>Why you can&#8217;t see your loved one&#8217;s doctor<br \/>Why you were overcharged for something<br \/>Why your loved one was put somewhere they weren&#8217;t<br \/>suppose to<br \/>Why you or your loved one didn&#8217;t get a part of care<br \/>you were suppose to<br \/>Why the police mistreated you or your loved one<br \/>ETC.<\/p>\n<p>Most of the time, you will get the turn around.<br \/>They will try to turn it around on you. Blame you.<br \/>Be prepared. Get a small note book and carry it<br \/>with you at all time. Write first and last names<br \/>down, times and places. Make notes. People hate<br \/>to give their first and last name. They hate<br \/>when you talk about writing their boss or<br \/>the head of the organization. It scares them. <\/p>\n<p>They don&#8217;t want you to make trouble for them<br \/>because whatever bad they are doing, they<br \/>are doing to many other people so if they<br \/>keep you quiet they can keep on doing it.<\/p>\n<p>Final thing, make your requests reasonable<br \/>not a joke. <\/p>\n<p>In my courses\/systems many people who<br \/>I interview talk about the turn around<br \/>all the time and how it&#8217;s a big problem<br \/>in the field and some ideas on how to <br \/>deal with it. I feel that my method works<br \/>very well even though you have to be tough:<\/p>\n<p>SUPPORTING AN ADULT?<br \/>Visit:<br \/>http:\/\/www.bipolarsupporter.com\/report11<\/p>\n<p>SUPPORTING A CHILD\/TEEN?<br \/>Visit:<br \/>http:\/\/www.bipolarparenting.com<\/p>\n<p>HAVE BIPOLAR DISORDER?<br \/>Visit:<br \/>http:\/\/www.survivebipolar.net<\/p>\n<p>Well I have to run. Catch you tomorrow. I really<br \/>hope this makes sense because this is really<br \/>serious stuff.<\/p>\n<p>Did you know that the big episode my mom<br \/>went into starting in 2003 through 2004<br \/>was because her OLD doctor would not<br \/>put her in the hospital even though my<br \/>mom asked him to multiple times. Imagine<br \/>that. My mom asked to go to the hospital<br \/>because she was very sick. He didn&#8217;t respond<br \/>at all and she got worse and worse. When I questioned<br \/>him, he turned it around on her basically saying<br \/>she didn&#8217;t ask him correctly? He&#8217;s a dummy. <\/p>\n<p>POST RESPONSES TO THIS EMAIL HERE<\/p>\n<p>Your Friend,<\/p>\n<p>Dave<\/p>\n<p>P.S. Check out my F.ree blog with copies of emails <br \/>that I have sent in the past and lots of great <br \/>information for you:<br \/>http:\/\/www.bipolarcentral.com\/supporterblog\/<\/p>\n<p>P.P.S Check out my F.ree podcast. Hear me give <br \/>mini seminars designed to teach you information <br \/>you can&#8217;t learn anywhere else.<br \/>http:\/\/bipolarcentral.libsyn.com<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Hi,<\/p>\n<p>How&#8217;s it going today? Yesterday something<br \/>happen to me that happens all the time<br \/>when people are dealing with bipolar disorder<br \/>or mental health in general. I call it<br \/>&#8220;the turn around.&#8221; <\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s kind of funny but I like to give things<br \/>names. 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