{"id":5495,"date":"2007-08-01T08:00:00","date_gmt":"2007-08-01T12:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.bipolarsupporter.com\/bipolarsupporterblog\/shocking-stories-employment-and-bipolar-disorder\/"},"modified":"2007-08-01T08:00:00","modified_gmt":"2007-08-01T12:00:00","slug":"shocking-stories-employment-and-bipolar-disorder","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.bipolarsupporter.com\/bipolarsupporterblog\/shocking-stories-employment-and-bipolar-disorder\/","title":{"rendered":"Shocking stories: Employment and bipolar disorder"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Hi,<\/p>\n<p>How&#8217;s it going? Today I wanted to write about<br \/>something that I have really ever written about<br \/>but I find it fairly disturbing. <\/p>\n<p>The other day I was talking to someone who<br \/>filled out one of my F.REE consultation<br \/>certificates for non medical and non legal<br \/>questions because I am NOT a doctor, lawyer,<br \/>therapist, etc.<\/p>\n<p>Anyway, this person basically wanted to know<br \/>two things.<\/p>\n<p>1. Why his son was sleeping so much in the day<br \/>and would be up all night.<\/p>\n<p>2. How he could get his son to start working<br \/>right away.<\/p>\n<p>First, I explained to him that I was not a doctor<br \/>BUT, I asked him if he informed the doctor about<br \/>his son&#8217;s condition. He said, &#8220;Umm. Well no not really.&#8221;<br \/>So I highly, and I mean highly recommended that he<br \/>contact the doctor and let him\/her know EXACTLY<br \/>what he was seeing with his son. From a to z and<br \/>don&#8217;t hide, sugar coat or mask anything.<\/p>\n<p>NOTE-I am really surprised the number of people<br \/>that see that something is wrong and don&#8217;t <br \/>report it to the doctor. I just can&#8217;t understand<br \/>why people do this. It doesn&#8217;t make sense. If<br \/>you see ANYTHING that is not &#8220;normal&#8221; or <br \/>doesn&#8217;t make sense with either yourself or your<br \/>loved one with bipolar disorder, you must report<br \/>it. <\/p>\n<p>Doctors are NOT psychics and can&#8217;t know things<br \/>without you telling them. <\/p>\n<p>Okay so anyway, back the story. So the guy says<br \/>okay I can do that and that makes sense. I tell<br \/>him that he needs to ask the doctor exactly<br \/>how they would like to receive this information<br \/>via email, fax, voicemails, etc. <\/p>\n<p>The guy says okay. <\/p>\n<p>Then he said well what about working and bipolar<br \/>disorder. I said what do you mean? He said well<br \/>he won&#8217;t work. I said you mean your son? He said<br \/>yes. <\/p>\n<p>I was shocked.<\/p>\n<p>Do you know why? Take a wild guess and then<br \/>scroll down for the answer&#8230;.<\/p>\n<p>SCROLL DOWN<\/p>\n<p>How can you expect someone with bipolar disorder<br \/>to work if he is not stable? How does this make any<br \/>sense whatsoever? I asked this person this simple<br \/>question he said. <\/p>\n<p>Well I need him to start making some money<br \/>because he hasn&#8217;t made any. I was thinking in my<br \/>head, &#8220;Well I need a lot of stuff but that doesn&#8217;t<br \/>mean I am going to get it.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>So I explained to this particular gentleman that<br \/>his son has bipolar disorder and is not stable.<br \/>Step 1 is to get him stable. After he is stable,<br \/>then we can look into things like employment. But<br \/>first things first. We have to get him stable.<\/p>\n<p>I then said to him. Imagine how &#8220;crazy&#8221; it would<br \/>be if you asked a stroke victim who just had a stroke<br \/>to start working right away. I said to him, &#8220;People<br \/>would like you were out of your mind.&#8221; I said,<br \/>you are asking the same type of thing.<\/p>\n<p>I then went on to say, &#8220;it seems you don&#8217;t think<br \/>bipolar disorder is a real condition and is serious<br \/>because if you did, you wouldn&#8217;t expect your son<br \/>to work right away even though he is not stable.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>I then went on to add, would it be fair for your<br \/>son to apply for jobs even though he wasn&#8217;t stable?<br \/>He said, &#8220;well the people probably wouldn&#8217;t know<br \/>at first anyway?&#8221; I said, well is that fair? Of<br \/>course it&#8217;s not fair.<\/p>\n<p>I then told the person he needs a sort of bipolar<br \/>supporter mind cleanse and he is way off track.<br \/>I told him that I was going to outline what I thought<br \/>he needs to do.<\/p>\n<p>I told him.<\/p>\n<p>1. Focus on getting your son stable.<br \/>2. Work with the doctor and inform him of your son&#8217;s<br \/>signs and symptoms.<br \/>3. Assume that it&#8217;s going to take months for your son<br \/>be stable. If it takes less time great but assume longer<br \/>than shorter so you don&#8217;t get disappointed.<br \/>4. Reread what bipolar disorder is and study it carefully.<br \/>5. Sell yourself that bipolar disorder is a real illness<br \/>and you can&#8217;t push an unstable person too hard because<br \/>that&#8217;s not fair. <br \/>6. After your son is stable, look into part time employment<br \/>after the doctor\/therapist agree it&#8217;s okay.<br \/>7. If you need money immediately, cut your expenses and\/or<br \/>increase your income but don&#8217;t put pressure on your son<br \/>who is not well.<br \/>8. Treat your son the same way you would treat a cancer patient<br \/>or stroke victim who are in recovery. Meaning if a cancer patient<br \/>was in recovery, you wouldn&#8217;t expect them to work and make a<br \/>fortune right away would you? He said no.<\/p>\n<p>Then I let the person go because I had to run. I must say<br \/>I get a lot of calls from people wanting their loved one<br \/>to start working right away. I find this disturbing.<br \/>How the heck can you expect someone to work when he\/she<br \/>is not stable? That makes no sense. <\/p>\n<p>When my mom was sick, my brother never wanted my mom<br \/>to work BUT he would make comments and jokes about how <br \/>she wasn&#8217;t working. I didn&#8217;t even bother to argue with<br \/>him because the stuff he was saying was so stupid it<br \/>was not even worth commenting on.<\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s the thing. You have to help a person become stable<br \/>first before you have them employed. If you don&#8217;t you<br \/>will wind up costing yourself more money in the long <br \/>run. For example, if you get a person a job who is<br \/>not stable they will probably get worse anyway which<br \/>will wind up costing more in medical costs, medication<br \/>costs and psychological costs on you and if you start<br \/>to depend on the income they are making it will be <br \/>gone and that will be a problem for you.<\/p>\n<p>So don&#8217;t do it. And give a person with bipolar disorder<br \/>who is not stable a break. It&#8217;s not fair to put a ton<br \/>of pressure on them. If you need money, look to other<br \/>ways to get it. Like I said, cut your expenses,<br \/>increase your income, etc. There&#8217;s more than one<br \/>way to skin a cat so to speak as the old saying<br \/>goes.<\/p>\n<p>In my courses\/systems, nobody went into an episode<br \/>and could start working right away. It was a <br \/>gradual process. It takes time. I think after 9 months<br \/>or so my mom could work part time. BUT part time. <br \/>If you check out my interview in my courses\/systems<br \/>you&#8217;ll see what I mean.<\/p>\n<p>SUPPORTING AN ADULT?<br \/>Visit:<br \/>http:\/\/www.bipolarsupporter.com\/report11<\/p>\n<p>SUPPORTING A CHILD\/TEEN?<br \/>Visit:<br \/>http:\/\/www.bipolarparenting.com<\/p>\n<p>HAVE BIPOLAR DISORDER?<br \/>Visit:<br \/>http:\/\/www.survivebipolar.net<\/p>\n<p>Well I have to take off for today. I hope you really<br \/>think about this email because it&#8217;s important.<\/p>\n<p>Have a great day and I will catch you tomorrow.<\/p>\n<p>Your Friend,<\/p>\n<p>Dave<\/p>\n<p>P.S. Check out my F.ree blog with copies of emails <br \/>that I have sent in the past and lots of great <br \/>information for you:<br \/>http:\/\/www.bipolarcentral.com\/supporterblog\/<\/p>\n<p>P.P.S Check out my F.ree podcast. Hear me give <br \/>mini seminars designed to teach you information <br \/>you can&#8217;t learn anywhere else.<br \/>http:\/\/bipolarcentral.libsyn.com<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Hi,<\/p>\n<p>How&#8217;s it going? 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