{"id":5490,"date":"2007-08-07T08:37:00","date_gmt":"2007-08-07T12:37:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.bipolarsupporter.com\/bipolarsupporterblog\/warning-about-total-outsourced-bipolar-care\/"},"modified":"2007-08-07T08:37:00","modified_gmt":"2007-08-07T12:37:00","slug":"warning-about-total-outsourced-bipolar-care","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.bipolarsupporter.com\/bipolarsupporterblog\/warning-about-total-outsourced-bipolar-care\/","title":{"rendered":"Warning About Total Outsourced Bipolar Care"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Hi,<\/p>\n<p>How are you? Yesterday I was speaking to a<br \/>very nice woman who ordered my bipolar<br \/>supporter master course. She had some questions<br \/>and she used the f.ree consultation form<br \/>for non medical and non legal questions.<\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s her story in a nutshell. She had a son<br \/>who has either bipolar disorder, schizoaffective<br \/>disorder or another disorder which I forgot right<br \/>now.<\/p>\n<p>I think she said for 11 or so years they have<br \/>been trying to help him. She and her husband<br \/>stumbled upon my site and decided to get<br \/>my material.<\/p>\n<p>Right now her son is in the hospital and in a<br \/>few days is going to be getting released. She<br \/>was asking me if I knew any facilities that<br \/>he could go to&#8211;like a private care facility.<\/p>\n<p>She mentioned that she felt like she had<br \/>found a good doctor that could help her<br \/>son but some were advising her that her son<br \/>needs to be in a facility that they can make<br \/>sure he takes his medication and does everything<br \/>correctly. In essence, they handle everything&#8211;<br \/>total outsourced bipolar care.<\/p>\n<p>She asked for my opinion about the entire<br \/>situation and what I would do. Before I tell<br \/>you what I said, I spoke to another person<br \/>with the same type of situation. It&#8217;s kind of<br \/>amazing that I get the same types of calls<br \/>on the same days. That&#8217;s odd to me but it kind<br \/>of works that way.<\/p>\n<p>This guy had a son who has bipolar disorder<br \/>and maybe schizophrenia. His son was totally<br \/>out of control and was put into the hospital.<br \/>Everyone in the family says the son is beyond<br \/>the father&#8217;s control and should be put into<br \/>an institution so they can take care of him.<br \/>He wanted to know my opinion.<\/p>\n<p>For both people I of course told them how<br \/>I am NOT a doctor, therapist, lawyer, etc.<br \/>and I can&#8217;t offer medical advice. They said,<br \/>basically &#8220;yea, yea, we know that you write<br \/>that 10 times a week.&#8221; I kind of laughed<br \/>because I always like to remind people.<\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s the thing I said to them. First I don&#8217;t<br \/>have a list of &#8220;good&#8221; facilities to put people<br \/>into. I don&#8217;t think such a list exists and things<br \/>change so much that any list today might not be<br \/>worth much tomorrow.<\/p>\n<p>Secondly, I warned both people against what I called<br \/>Total Outsourced Bipolar Care (TOBC). Basically<br \/>this is when you take someone and you put them<br \/>in some place or with someone and that organization<br \/>or person will handle the care from a to z with no<br \/>supervision from you or your family. <\/p>\n<p>I think this is a bad idea in the mental health area.<br \/>We have seen time and time again that many places <br \/>really don&#8217;t treat people with a mental illness well.<br \/>Even the best places. I have seen even good doctors<br \/>without friends, families or someone&#8217;s involvement<br \/>not do the things they are suppose to.<\/p>\n<p>The other day we talked about theory versus reality.<br \/>Theoretically any organization that is designed<br \/>to take care of someone with a mental illness or<br \/>any person should do it really well and try super<br \/>hard to help the person. But the reality is, <br \/>research suggests that total outsourced bipolar<br \/>care many times leads to the mistreatment of<br \/>someone with a disorder like bipolar disorder,<br \/>borderline personality disorder or schizophrenia.<\/p>\n<p>So if you are considering this because maybe you<br \/>are at the end of your rope, please be careful.<br \/>Why? Because I find if you think that one person<br \/>or one organization will take your loved one problems<br \/>completely off your hands, I find that it&#8217;s not going<br \/>to happen like you think. I really don&#8217;t think there<br \/>is such a thing as perfect or even really good<br \/>total outsourced bipolar care unless you have a <br \/>TON and I mean a TON of money.<\/p>\n<p>If you have to put your loved one in a facility for<br \/>some amount of time make sure you check in, see<br \/>what&#8217;s going on, get them into the 5% group of<br \/>patients that I talk about in my courses\/systems<br \/>so they get great care. Make sure that you ask<br \/>questions, demonstrate you are on top of things,<br \/>etc.<\/p>\n<p>You can&#8217;t just put someone with an organization and<br \/>think they will &#8220;handle it&#8221; because most times<br \/>they won&#8217;t. <\/p>\n<p>I am sure there are thousands of people on my list<br \/>that had this done to them and it was a horror show.<\/p>\n<p>Actually now that I think about it, one of the interviews<br \/>in my course\/system had a horrible situation where he<br \/>was put in this &#8220;place&#8221; that was designed to help<br \/>people with a mental illness but the place simply really,<br \/>really mistreated him as he remembers. The family didn\u2019t<br \/>know it was because they never really checked in.<\/p>\n<p>SUPPORTING AN ADULT WITH BIPOLAR DISORDER?<br \/>Visit:<br \/>http:\/\/www.bipolarsupporter.com\/report11<\/p>\n<p>SUPPORTING A CHILD\/TEEN WITH BIPOLAR DISORDER?<br \/>Visit:<br \/>http:\/\/www.bipolarparenting.com<\/p>\n<p>HAVE BIPOLAR DISORDER?<br \/>Visit:<br \/>http:\/\/www.survivebipolar.net<\/p>\n<p>I am a huge believe in finding a great doctor and working<br \/>with him her to help yourself or your loved one. I am not<br \/>a big fan of total outsource bipolar care. Now you might<br \/>be wondering what&#8217;s the difference between total outsourced<br \/>bipolar care and outsourced bipolar care. Here&#8217;s how I see<br \/>it. <\/p>\n<p>Total outsourced bipolar care is when no one else has<br \/>any involvement in the care and a person or organization<br \/>outside of the friends and family circle has total say<br \/>and handles everything from a to z. I am sure you can<br \/>see why this is a problem. It&#8217;s just like in government.<br \/>If you give a government too much power, bad things<br \/>happen. Just look at history.<\/p>\n<p>Well I have to run. Have a great day and I will catch<br \/>you later.<\/p>\n<p>Your Friend,<\/p>\n<p>Dave<\/p>\n<p>P.S. Check out my F.ree blog with copies of emails <br \/>that I have sent in the past and lots of great <br \/>information for you:<br \/>http:\/\/www.bipolarcentral.com\/supporterblog\/<\/p>\n<p>P.P.S Check out my F.ree podcast. Hear me give <br \/>mini seminars designed to teach you information <br \/>you can&#8217;t learn anywhere else.<br \/>http:\/\/bipolarcentral.libsyn.com<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Hi,<\/p>\n<p>How are you? Yesterday I was speaking to a<br \/>very nice woman who ordered my bipolar<br \/>supporter master course. She had some questions<br \/>and she used the f.ree consultation form<br \/>for non medical and non legal questions.<\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s her story in a nutshell. She had a son<br \/>who has either bipolar disorder, schizoaffective<br \/>disorder or another disorder which I forgot right<br \/>now.<\/p>\n<p>I think she said for 11 or so years they have<br \/>been trying to help him.<\/p>\n<p> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bipolarsupporter.com\/bipolarsupporterblog\/warning-about-total-outsourced-bipolar-care\/\" class=\"more-link pull-right\" rel=\"bookmark\">Continue Reading<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v21.6 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Warning About Total Outsourced Bipolar Care - Bipolar Supporter Blog<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/www.bipolarsupporter.com\/bipolarsupporterblog\/warning-about-total-outsourced-bipolar-care\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Warning About Total Outsourced Bipolar Care - Bipolar Supporter Blog\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"Hi, How are you? 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