{"id":5313,"date":"2008-01-21T09:41:00","date_gmt":"2008-01-21T14:41:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.bipolarsupporter.com\/bipolarsupporterblog\/can-you-outgrow-bipolar-shocking-story\/"},"modified":"2008-01-21T09:41:00","modified_gmt":"2008-01-21T14:41:00","slug":"can-you-outgrow-bipolar-shocking-story","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.bipolarsupporter.com\/bipolarsupporterblog\/can-you-outgrow-bipolar-shocking-story\/","title":{"rendered":"Can You Outgrow Bipolar? Shocking Story"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Hi,<\/p>\n<p>How&#8217;s it going?<\/p>\n<p>Boy I have a lot of things to<br \/>do today. I feel like I say<br \/>that every day \ud83d\ude42<\/p>\n<p>Yesterday I received a phone call<br \/>from a friend of mine. This friend&#8217;s<br \/>brother has bipolar disorder. Over  <br \/>the years, he has had all kinds of problems<br \/>with not only bipolar disorder and also <br \/>addictions.<\/p>\n<p>Anyway he didn&#8217;t go to a doctor<br \/>regularly and didn&#8217;t take his <br \/>medication consistently.<\/p>\n<p>Unfortunately he did a ton of things<br \/>wrong which I will sum up her:<\/p>\n<p>Went to multiple doctors over the years<br \/>for really no apparent reason<br \/>DO> As a result, each doctor had to start<br \/>over from scratch to learn about him. This<br \/>made treatment a nightmare.<\/p>\n<p>Didn&#8217;t see any doctor regularly<br \/>DO> In addition to having a whole bunch of<br \/>doctors over a whole bunch of years, he didn&#8217;t<br \/>see the one he was suppose to regularly or<br \/>when he was suppose to and as a result side<br \/>effects from the medication where never reduced<br \/>to a minimum<\/p>\n<p>-He stopped taking his medications so many<br \/>times I lost count.<br \/>DO>When you have stuff working well, or even<br \/>kind of well, I am told by experts that when<br \/>you stop it, it&#8217;s bad and it takes a lot to<br \/>get back on track. (I know this is an over<br \/>simplification but I am sure you know what<br \/>I am talking about)<\/p>\n<p>-He doesn&#8217;t have a knowledgeable support <br \/>team. His family thinks the know about<br \/>bipolar but they really know little to<br \/>nothing.<br \/>DO> His family winds up agreeing with<br \/>many bad decisions he makes like: changing<br \/>doctors frequently; not taking his medication<br \/>consistently; not having a job, etc.<\/p>\n<p>Last night my friend was telling <br \/>me how all his brothers problems in<br \/>life were caused by his medications for<br \/>bipolar disorder.<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s odd how many people work. Many people<br \/>want something other than themselves to assign<br \/>blame too.<\/p>\n<p>I see this all the time in business consulting<br \/>which I do. I see company owners who want<br \/>to blame bad decisions on everyone other<br \/>than themselves. They will look for anyone<br \/>anywhere to blame.<\/p>\n<p>The only owners who do well are the ones<br \/>who accept blame themselves and personal<br \/>responsibility and move forward. The ones<br \/>that say, &#8220;Man, I really messed up, I take<br \/>responsibly for what I did and now we<br \/>are going to move forward. I am not going<br \/>to do that or make that mistake again. Thanks<br \/>for pointing that out to me.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>As a business consultant it&#8217;s rare that<br \/>ever happens. <\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s normally deny, deny, deny, assign<br \/>blame to someone else in the company.<\/p>\n<p>When you get my courses\/systems:<\/p>\n<p>SUPPORTING AN ADULT WITH BIPOLAR DISORDER?<br \/>Visit:<br \/><a href=\"http:\/\/www.bipolarsupporter.com\/report11\">http:\/\/www.bipolarsupporter.com\/report11<\/a><\/p>\n<p>SUPPORTING A CHILD\/TEEN WITH BIPOLAR DISORDER?<br \/>Visit:<br \/><a href=\"http:\/\/www.bipolarparenting.com\">http:\/\/www.bipolarparenting.com<\/a><\/p>\n<p>HAVE BIPOLAR DISORDER?<br \/>Visit:<br \/><a href=\"http:\/\/www.survivebipolar.net\">http:\/\/www.survivebipolar.net<\/a><\/p>\n<p>I not only point out all the mistakes I think<br \/>I made, I accept responsibly for them.<\/p>\n<p>Mistakes like:<\/p>\n<p>-enabling my mom for many years costing me<br \/>all my savings<\/p>\n<p>-arguing with my mom when I shouldn&#8217;t<\/p>\n<p>-getting mad at my mom instead of her<br \/>bipolar disorder<\/p>\n<p>etc.<\/p>\n<p>I go through all of this.<\/p>\n<p>Anyway, I find the same thing with<br \/>bipolar disorder. People seem to try to<br \/>look to someone or something else other<br \/>than themselves as to what caused all the<br \/>problems.<\/p>\n<p>You could read a 1000 self help books<br \/>that tell you this is the wrong way to <br \/>go about things.<\/p>\n<p>Anyway back to my friend, my friend agreed<br \/>with his brother that the bipolar medication<br \/>was the cause of all his problems even though<br \/>that makes no sense whatsoever. <\/p>\n<p>My friend believed so strongly that<br \/>it was the medications that were the problem<br \/>not the numerous bad decisions made over<br \/>the year, that I didn&#8217;t even wind up<br \/>trying to explain how what he was saying<br \/>made absolutely positively no sense.<\/p>\n<p>And then my friend said the craziest thing<br \/>to me. He said his brother stopped taking<br \/>his medication and the family saw he was better<br \/>and that he had outgrown bipolar disorder.<\/p>\n<p>The family all agreed and  now was supporting<br \/>his decision to not take medication any more.<\/p>\n<p>I got the feeling that the brother would have<br \/>continued to take his medication if the family<br \/>would have said, &#8220;hey, you really need to<br \/>take your medication to be stable for the long<br \/>term.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>But since they didn&#8217;t, he stopped taking it.<br \/>Now it was his decision but well the family<br \/>could have probably pushed him in the right<br \/>direction.<\/p>\n<p>I was totally shocked. I asked my friend<br \/>why do you think he outgrew his bipolar?<\/p>\n<p>My friend said, &#8220;well because he looks<br \/>good and is doing well since he stopped<br \/>taking it.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>The crazy thing is, it&#8217;s been like 10 days.<br \/>How the heck can you measure success in<br \/>10 days?<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s just amazing.<\/p>\n<p>I listened and listened and didn&#8217;t say<br \/>much. <\/p>\n<p>My head hurt so much from hearing all this<br \/>that I said, one final thing:<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;When a person stops taking medication,<br \/>I have seen that they do okay for a very<br \/>limited period of time and then incrementally<br \/>get worse and worse and worse. Those around<br \/>will not notice because they adjust to<br \/>the worse behavior. Eventually that person<br \/>has a complete breakdown which can turn<br \/>into what I call is the bipolar doomsday<br \/>scenario which can absolutely destroy a family.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>I explained what the bipolar doomsday scenario<br \/>was and how it worked. My friend kind of yesed<br \/>me to death.<\/p>\n<p>I went on to say, &#8220;I am not going to <br \/>preach to you because you guys are all<br \/>adults and have access to all my materials.<br \/>I don&#8217;t agree or support these decisions.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>My friend said, &#8220;okay.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>In my head I was just amazed thinking &#8220;how<br \/>in the world could people think this way?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Then I got up this morning and remembered<br \/>that this EXACT SAME THING happened about<br \/>7 years ago and my friend&#8217;s brother went<br \/>off his medication and then was doing<br \/>okay and went into super episode and randomly<br \/>got married and then divorced. It took him<br \/>years to kind of recover.<\/p>\n<p>I just don&#8217;t know what to say.<\/p>\n<p>It really makes my head hurt. I realize<br \/>I can&#8217;t save every single person in the world.<br \/>I wish I could but I don&#8217;t have enough time<br \/>and money. I guess all I can do is just keep<br \/>doing what I am doing and help those that<br \/>want to be helped.<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s a sad fact that in a few months, I&#8217;ll<br \/>probably be writing you about how my friends<br \/>brother went into a huge bipolar episode. It&#8217;s<br \/>sad but true. I have found in 100% of the cases,<br \/>this is what will happen.<\/p>\n<p>Finally, I want to say the following,<br \/>NEVER EVER get off your medication unless:<\/p>\n<p>-You talk to you doctor<\/p>\n<p>-You are monitored closely by your doctor<br \/>without medication, reporting what&#8217;s going<br \/>on via fax, phone, email, etc.<\/p>\n<p>-You have at least one supporter who has<br \/>medical releases signed so he\/she can<br \/>tell a doctor and therapist how you are<br \/>doing<\/p>\n<p>IMPORTANT NOTE<\/p>\n<p>-If you feel like getting off your medication,<br \/>ask yourself why. Then talk to your therapist<br \/>and doctor about your feelings<\/p>\n<p>-If you have side effects with your medications<br \/>and can&#8217;t stand them, talk to your doctor. He\/she<br \/>can modify your medication but can&#8217;t do so<br \/>if you don&#8217;t talk to them.<\/p>\n<p>-Find a good doctor you like and trust.<\/p>\n<p>You know what? The older I get, the less I like<br \/>to explain to people the error of their ways.<br \/>What do I mean? Well I am a &#8220;tell it like it is<br \/>person.&#8221; That&#8217;s gotten me in a whole lot of<br \/>trouble for many years. Many people really want<br \/>to hear what they want to hear.  <\/p>\n<p>As a result, people get mad when they don&#8217;t<br \/>hear what they want to hear. My friend is one of<br \/>those people. He will get mad if you disagree<br \/>with him and that&#8217;s why I didn&#8217;t &#8220;get into it&#8221;<br \/>about his brother.<\/p>\n<p>Someone made a comment about the fact that<br \/>I seem to be harsh with telling the story<br \/>about my mom and her bipolar disorder. That<br \/>I am hard on my brother, my dad or myself.<br \/>I am not harsh I just tell it like it happened.<\/p>\n<p>I asked Pascale (who is a tell it like it is<br \/>person), what she thinks and she said, &#8220;Look,<br \/>you have over 100,000 people on your list, <br \/>someone is going to be mad at you for something<br \/>every day. Actually probably hundreds of people<br \/>at the same time. You can&#8217;t please everyone.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>I guess she is right. I will continue to<br \/>tell the real story and not sugar coat it.<br \/>It would be easy for me to do. I would simply<br \/>say, &#8220;My mom had an huge episode, we all did everything<br \/>right. Everyone was and is really supportive<br \/>and now she is doing great. She never had any<br \/>other problems after the first episode and it&#8217;s<br \/>just totally wonderful and everyone was super helpful.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>If I did that, what would you really learn? And<br \/>how would the people that everything wasn&#8217;t<br \/>wonderful think? <\/p>\n<p>Hey I have to go. I will catch you tomorrow.<\/p>\n<p>Your Friend,<\/p>\n<p>Dave<\/p>\n<p>P.S. Want your own copy of these daily bipolar<br \/>emails sent to you for F.ree? If so, visit: <br \/><a href=\"http:\/\/www.bipolarcentral.com\/register3\">http:\/\/www.bipolarcentral.com\/register3<\/a><\/p>\n<p>P.P.S. Don&#8217;t forget to take a look through the <br \/>different programs I&#8217;ve put together&#8230; each one is designed <br \/>to help you with a different area of bipolar disorder whether<br \/>you have it or you are supporting someone with it. <br \/>You can see them all and get the details by visiting:<br \/><a href=\"http:\/\/www.bipolarcentral.com\/catalog.asp\">http:\/\/www.bipolarcentral.com\/catalog.asp<\/a><\/p>\n<p>P.P.P.S. Check out my F.ree blog with copies of emails <br \/>that I have sent in the past and lots of great <br \/>information for you:<br \/><a href=\"http:\/\/www.bipolarcentral.com\/supporterblog\/\">http:\/\/www.bipolarcentral.com\/supporterblog\/<\/a><\/p>\n<p>P.P.P.P.S Check out my F.ree podcast. Hear me give <br \/>mini seminars designed to teach you information <br \/>you can&#8217;t learn anywhere else.<br \/><a href=\"http:\/\/bipolarcentral.libsyn.com\">http:\/\/bipolarcentral.libsyn.com<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Hi,<\/p>\n<p>How&#8217;s it going?<\/p>\n<p>Boy I have a lot of things to<br \/>do today. I feel like I say<br \/>that every day \ud83d\ude42<\/p>\n<p>Yesterday I received a phone call<br \/>from a friend of mine. This friend&#8217;s<br \/>brother has bipolar disorder. 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