{"id":5288,"date":"2008-02-12T10:28:00","date_gmt":"2008-02-12T15:28:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.bipolarsupporter.com\/bipolarsupporterblog\/bipolar-lessons-from-yesterdays-meeting\/"},"modified":"2008-02-12T10:28:00","modified_gmt":"2008-02-12T15:28:00","slug":"bipolar-lessons-from-yesterdays-meeting","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.bipolarsupporter.com\/bipolarsupporterblog\/bipolar-lessons-from-yesterdays-meeting\/","title":{"rendered":"Bipolar Lessons From Yesterday&#8217;s Meeting"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>=>PLEASE FORWARD TO FRIENDS, FAMILY AND LOVED ONES <=\n\n<br \/>Hi,<\/p>\n<p>How&#8217;s it going?<\/p>\n<p>I wanted to let you know, I will<br \/>be posting a f.ree interview that I did<br \/>on bipolar disorder. It&#8217;s one of my<br \/>best interviews ever.<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s almost 2 hours long. It will be<br \/>posted online for you to listen. I need<br \/>about a week to get it all ready to<br \/>go for you.<\/p>\n<p>Well yesterday I went to that meeting.<\/p>\n<p>I actually took this short cut and it<br \/>turned into a long cut. You won&#8217;t believe<br \/>this but I was driving towards New York<br \/>which is east of me. Then all of a sudden<br \/>I was almost back where I lived some<br \/>how taking all these shortcuts and<br \/>&#8220;back roads.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Needless to say, I was 45 minutes<br \/>late \ud83d\ude42 But the meeting started<br \/>late. <\/p>\n<p>Where did I go? I went to a big<br \/>conference with successful business<br \/>people.<\/p>\n<p>It was really interesting. At lunch<br \/>I sat down next to a very big guy. He<br \/>was taller and bigger than me. Not out<br \/>of shape just big.<\/p>\n<p>He asked what I did. At this particular<br \/>meeting, I told everyone about my mental<br \/>health organization. I usually only pick<br \/>one thing to talk about. If you tell <br \/>someone you have 4 different businesses,<br \/>they will think you are insane.<\/p>\n<p>So he asked a whole bunch of questions<br \/>about bipolar disorder and borderline personality<br \/>disorder. <\/p>\n<p>I told him how my mom thinks she has borderline<br \/>personality disorder as well and so does<br \/>her therapist but her doctor doesn&#8217;t want<br \/>her to have another label so the doctor has<br \/>the final say and the therapist respects that.<\/p>\n<p>So far, the doctor&#8217;s plan is working just fine.<br \/>Anyway, did you know what? I mentioned this<br \/>before a few months back. I don&#8217;t make a big<br \/>deal about it.<\/p>\n<p>Michele Soloway has bipolar AND borderline<br \/>personality disorder as well as one other<br \/>person that works for me I think.<\/p>\n<p>Anyway, this big business guy who had a financial<br \/>services business, said, &#8220;I was married to a<br \/>woman for 29 years with borderline personality<br \/>disorder and maybe bipolar disorder.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>He told me how he lived in fear an called<br \/>it &#8220;29 years of hell on earth.&#8221; He told<br \/>me how hard it was to deal with her, how<br \/>erratic it was. How he tried everything<br \/>to help her and how she basically destroyed<br \/>the family for much of those 29 years.<\/p>\n<p>I explained what happen with my family<br \/>and how my mom wasn&#8217;t well a whole lot of<br \/>time.<\/p>\n<p>He then asked if there were really any<br \/>ways to help people like his ex wife.<br \/>I told him yes. I told him all I knew<br \/>for the person with borderline and bipolar<br \/>disorder. What the keys were. I also<br \/>indicated that I was not a doctor, therapist,<br \/>attorney, or other kind of professional.<\/p>\n<p>He was amazed that I had put the entire organization<br \/>together that helps people with these illnesses,<br \/>both supporters and survivors, <br \/>and was further amazed that I had<br \/>not only my mom working for me but other people<br \/>with a mental illnesses. He said he knew<br \/>many people who did as well.<\/p>\n<p>One thing I told him about is the concept<br \/>of &#8220;standing up to bipolar disorder.&#8221; Or<br \/>in his case it would have been standing up<br \/>to both bipolar and borderline. I told him<br \/>how appeasement doesn&#8217;t work.<\/p>\n<p>He said that he didn&#8217;t think it&#8217;s possibly.<br \/>I told him that if you don&#8217;t you end up<br \/>with years and decades of misery.<\/p>\n<p>That&#8217;s what happen to my dad.<\/p>\n<p>What&#8217;s the stand up to bipolar disorder<br \/>concept? It&#8217;s basically you set up <br \/>boundaries and you don&#8217;t allow the person<br \/>with bipolar disorder to cross these boundaries.<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s also pushing in every legal way possibly<br \/>to get a person into treatment.<\/p>\n<p>If that fails, and you are being abused as a supporter<br \/>like this person was, I recommend you leave the person.<\/p>\n<p>I never endorse living with someone for decades<br \/>and they refuse treatment and they wind up<br \/>hitting you and hurting you. I know many people<br \/>who end up like this. Those that are like<br \/>this justify it for the following reasons:<\/p>\n<p>their religion frowns down on divorce<br \/> -I don&#8217;t know of any religions that would<br \/>really want you to stay with someone that is so<br \/>out of control they hit you.<\/p>\n<p>they have kids<br \/> -Even if you have kids, if you live<br \/>with someone way out of control for 5, 10,<br \/>20 years and just stay, your kids will be<br \/>negatively affected. Just think about<br \/>my brother and why he is the way he<br \/>is.<\/p>\n<p>they don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s right to abandon someone<br \/> -I don&#8217;t either. BUT, if you exhaust 25 <br \/>ways to try to get someone in treatment over a<br \/>few years, you can reasonably say that you did<br \/>all that you could. I seriously would have tried<br \/>for probably 3 years to get my mom into treatment<br \/>trying each method I knew one by one plus others<br \/>I learned but I would have given up after 25<br \/>to 30 different techniques and 3 years. <\/p>\n<p>Remember you have to draw the line somewhere.<br \/>If you don&#8217;t figure out what you will not<br \/>accept you wind up having no line and <br \/>things get worse and worse and worse. Before<br \/>you know it, you have no life and bipolar<br \/>disorder has taken over and you are like<br \/>prisoner.<\/p>\n<p>The guy that I spoke to yesterday, drew the line<br \/>after 29 years. That&#8217;s a long time. That&#8217;s<br \/>probably more than half his life kind of wasted.<\/p>\n<p>In my mind, I believe in, try EVERYTHING that<br \/>you can do to help someone with bipolar disorder<br \/>that&#8217;s legal. Try for a while. <\/p>\n<p>Get materials like mine if you can<\/p>\n<p>SUPPORTING AN ADULT WITH BIPOLAR DISORDER?<br \/>Visit:<br \/><a href=\"http:\/\/www.bipolarsupporter.com\/report11\">http:\/\/www.bipolarsupporter.com\/report11<\/a><\/p>\n<p>SUPPORTING A CHILD\/TEEN WITH BIPOLAR DISORDER?<br \/>Visit:<br \/><a href=\"http:\/\/www.bipolarparenting.com\">http:\/\/www.bipolarparenting.com<\/a><\/p>\n<p>HAVE BIPOLAR DISORDER?<br \/>Visit:<br \/><a href=\"http:\/\/www.survivebipolar.net\">http:\/\/www.survivebipolar.net<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Or you can go to many support groups, find other<br \/>successful people dealing with bipolar disorder,<br \/>talk to doctors and therapists. Try what they<br \/>say to help a loved one and then after years and<br \/>years of trying various strategies and tactics<br \/>might be time to leave.<\/p>\n<p>Do you think that I am too harsh?<\/p>\n<p>Your Friend,<\/p>\n<p>Dave<\/p>\n<p>P.S. Want your own copy of these daily bipolar<br \/>emails sent to you for F.ree? If so, visit: <br \/><a href=\"http:\/\/www.bipolarcentral.com\/register3\">http:\/\/www.bipolarcentral.com\/register3<\/a><\/p>\n<p>P.P.S. Don&#8217;t forget to take a look through the <br \/>different programs I&#8217;ve put together&#8230; each one is designed <br \/>to help you with a different area of bipolar disorder whether<br \/>you have it or you are supporting someone with it. <br \/>You can see them all and get the details by visiting:<br \/><a href=\"http:\/\/www.bipolarcentral.com\/catalog.asp\">http:\/\/www.bipolarcentral.com\/catalog.asp<\/a><\/p>\n<p>P.P.P.S. Check out my F.ree blog with copies of emails <br \/>that I have sent in the past and lots of great <br \/>information for you:<br \/><a href=\"http:\/\/www.bipolarcentral.com\/supporterblog\/\">http:\/\/www.bipolarcentral.com\/supporterblog\/<\/a><\/p>\n<p>P.P.P.P.S Check out my F.ree podcast. Hear me give <br \/>mini seminars designed to teach you information <br \/>you can&#8217;t learn anywhere else.<br \/><a href=\"http:\/\/bipolarcentral.libsyn.com\">http:\/\/bipolarcentral.libsyn.com<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>=PLEASE FORWARD TO FRIENDS, FAMILY AND LOVED ONES <\/p>\n<p> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bipolarsupporter.com\/bipolarsupporterblog\/bipolar-lessons-from-yesterdays-meeting\/\" class=\"more-link pull-right\" rel=\"bookmark\">Continue Reading<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v21.6 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Bipolar Lessons From Yesterday&#039;s Meeting - Bipolar Supporter Blog<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"http:\/\/www.bipolarsupporter.com\/bipolarsupporterblog\/bipolar-lessons-from-yesterdays-meeting\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Bipolar Lessons From Yesterday&#039;s Meeting - Bipolar Supporter Blog\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"=PLEASE FORWARD TO FRIENDS, FAMILY AND LOVED ONES Continue Reading\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:url\" content=\"http:\/\/www.bipolarsupporter.com\/bipolarsupporterblog\/bipolar-lessons-from-yesterdays-meeting\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:site_name\" content=\"Bipolar Supporter Blog\" \/>\n<meta property=\"article:published_time\" content=\"2008-02-12T15:28:00+00:00\" \/>\n<meta name=\"author\" content=\"David Oliver\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:card\" content=\"summary_large_image\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:label1\" content=\"Written by\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:data1\" content=\"David Oliver\" \/>\n<script type=\"application\/ld+json\" class=\"yoast-schema-graph\">{\"@context\":\"https:\/\/schema.org\",\"@graph\":[{\"@type\":\"Article\",\"@id\":\"http:\/\/www.bipolarsupporter.com\/bipolarsupporterblog\/bipolar-lessons-from-yesterdays-meeting\/#article\",\"isPartOf\":{\"@id\":\"http:\/\/www.bipolarsupporter.com\/bipolarsupporterblog\/bipolar-lessons-from-yesterdays-meeting\/\"},\"author\":{\"name\":\"David Oliver\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.bipolarsupporter.com\/bipolarsupporterblog\/#\/schema\/person\/bdb1948c35c678d8a189cbe999dcad75\"},\"headline\":\"Bipolar Lessons From Yesterday&#8217;s Meeting\",\"datePublished\":\"2008-02-12T15:28:00+00:00\",\"dateModified\":\"2008-02-12T15:28:00+00:00\",\"mainEntityOfPage\":{\"@id\":\"http:\/\/www.bipolarsupporter.com\/bipolarsupporterblog\/bipolar-lessons-from-yesterdays-meeting\/\"},\"wordCount\":13,\"commentCount\":37,\"publisher\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.bipolarsupporter.com\/bipolarsupporterblog\/#\/schema\/person\/bdb1948c35c678d8a189cbe999dcad75\"},\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\",\"potentialAction\":[{\"@type\":\"CommentAction\",\"name\":\"Comment\",\"target\":[\"http:\/\/www.bipolarsupporter.com\/bipolarsupporterblog\/bipolar-lessons-from-yesterdays-meeting\/#respond\"]}]},{\"@type\":\"WebPage\",\"@id\":\"http:\/\/www.bipolarsupporter.com\/bipolarsupporterblog\/bipolar-lessons-from-yesterdays-meeting\/\",\"url\":\"http:\/\/www.bipolarsupporter.com\/bipolarsupporterblog\/bipolar-lessons-from-yesterdays-meeting\/\",\"name\":\"Bipolar Lessons From Yesterday's Meeting - Bipolar Supporter Blog\",\"isPartOf\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.bipolarsupporter.com\/bipolarsupporterblog\/#website\"},\"datePublished\":\"2008-02-12T15:28:00+00:00\",\"dateModified\":\"2008-02-12T15:28:00+00:00\",\"breadcrumb\":{\"@id\":\"http:\/\/www.bipolarsupporter.com\/bipolarsupporterblog\/bipolar-lessons-from-yesterdays-meeting\/#breadcrumb\"},\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\",\"potentialAction\":[{\"@type\":\"ReadAction\",\"target\":[\"http:\/\/www.bipolarsupporter.com\/bipolarsupporterblog\/bipolar-lessons-from-yesterdays-meeting\/\"]}]},{\"@type\":\"BreadcrumbList\",\"@id\":\"http:\/\/www.bipolarsupporter.com\/bipolarsupporterblog\/bipolar-lessons-from-yesterdays-meeting\/#breadcrumb\",\"itemListElement\":[{\"@type\":\"ListItem\",\"position\":1,\"name\":\"Home\",\"item\":\"https:\/\/www.bipolarsupporter.com\/bipolarsupporterblog\/\"},{\"@type\":\"ListItem\",\"position\":2,\"name\":\"Bipolar Lessons From Yesterday&#8217;s Meeting\"}]},{\"@type\":\"WebSite\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.bipolarsupporter.com\/bipolarsupporterblog\/#website\",\"url\":\"https:\/\/www.bipolarsupporter.com\/bipolarsupporterblog\/\",\"name\":\"Bipolar Supporter Blog\",\"description\":\"With this blog, I want to keep all of you updated on important information about bipolar disorder and how it affects families. 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