{"id":5284,"date":"2008-02-16T08:18:00","date_gmt":"2008-02-16T13:18:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.bipolarsupporter.com\/bipolarsupporterblog\/murder-violence-and-bipolar-disorder\/"},"modified":"2008-02-16T08:18:00","modified_gmt":"2008-02-16T13:18:00","slug":"murder-violence-and-bipolar-disorder","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.bipolarsupporter.com\/bipolarsupporterblog\/murder-violence-and-bipolar-disorder\/","title":{"rendered":"Murder, violence and bipolar disorder"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>=>PLEASE FORWARD TO FRIENDS, FAMILY AND LOVED ONES <=\n\n<br \/>Hi,<\/p>\n<p>How&#8217;s it going? <\/p>\n<p>Okay, I have something sad to talk about today<br \/>but I have to.<\/p>\n<p>I am not sure if you heard but there<br \/>was a person who killed a bunch of people.<\/p>\n<p>Foxnews reported&#8230;<br \/>&#8220;Carrying a shotgun in a guitar case and at <br \/>least one handgun registered to him, former <br \/>sociology graduate student Steven Kazmierczak, <br \/>27, kicked through a side door to the 200-capacity <br \/>Cole Hall, walked in quickly and began firing at <br \/>students and the teacher.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>For the entire story, read this&#8230;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.foxnews.com\/story\/0,2933,330792,00.html\">http:\/\/www.foxnews.com\/story\/0,2933,330792,00.html<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Now it is not known right now if this person<br \/>had bipolar disorder but people are saying<br \/>this person was on medications and got off<br \/>them and started acting erratic.<\/p>\n<p>I preach this over and over again. When people<br \/>with serious mental illnesses get off their<br \/>medications, bad things happen generally.<\/p>\n<p>When you look at the bipolar disorder news<br \/>that I send out on Fridays every week,<br \/>you&#8217;ll see story after story about people<br \/>who have gotten off their medications <br \/>and done some really bad things.<\/p>\n<p>People who live with people not on medication<br \/>or people with bipolar disorder who aren&#8217;t taking<br \/>medications think, &#8220;oh, violence won&#8217;t happen<br \/>to me.&#8221; If I had a dollar for every time I heard<br \/>this, I would be rich.<\/p>\n<p>After I heard about this story, I saw this<br \/>shocking post on my blog which you should learn<br \/>from.<\/p>\n<p>Take a look:<\/p>\n<p> jerry said&#8230; <br \/>I have been living with my partner for about 5 <br \/>years. He was dicnotes for bipolar. he got worse <br \/>where I had to call police many times. I took him<br \/>to the hospital, Phyciatrist. I got his medications <br \/>but they keep switching them. After a while he started <br \/>hitting me. On night he got BAD. He beat my head <br \/>agianst the wall and broke my foot. I got away from <br \/>him and ran to the bedroom. <\/p>\n<p>I grabed a weapon to distance him from me. It was dark <br \/>in the room. He kept coming after me and ran into <br \/>the weapon (sharp). he is know passed. I miss him <br \/>soo. His family does&#8217;nt want anything to deal with <br \/>him and never did. I was his only support. now I am<br \/>dealing with Manslaughter. I have not yet been covited <br \/>yet. I am out on bail. <\/p>\n<p>My family and freinds have seen his violence. <br \/>Pleas Help!! I have no records or even had a <br \/>parking ticket. I wish the couart system would start <br \/>understand how dangerious this illness is. It was <br \/>not either our falt he was ill. I still Love him <br \/>and can&#8217;t get over it&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.Agian Please help <br \/>get the word out. Thank you for listening. Jerry<\/p>\n<p>And Then Jerry Said&#8230;<\/p>\n<p> jerry said&#8230; <br \/>Good Morning! I posted a comment a few days ago <br \/>about my inccedent. I would like to know I anyone <br \/>has delt with a manic deppresive person that is <br \/>dangerous. (Like hittining, or throwing things <br \/>or tried to hurt you). I have but would never <br \/>hurt him. I would let the incedent pass or go to <br \/>another room in the house. Please let me know you <br \/>delema. It is greatly apriciative. <br \/>Thank you, Jerry<\/p>\n<p>=========================<\/p>\n<p>Jerry, I am really sorry to hear this. Please<br \/>get as good as a lawyer as you can. I am NOT<br \/>an attorney and can&#8217;t offer any legal advice.<\/p>\n<p>I can just say, get a good lawyer and explain<br \/>to him\/her what bipolar disorder is so they<br \/>are clear.<\/p>\n<p>Also, here&#8217;s what I have found. When a person <br \/>with bipolar disorder, borderline personality disorder<br \/>and schizophrenia goes off their medication,<br \/>I have seen people do horrible things that <br \/>they never would do if they had the right <br \/>treatment plan.<\/p>\n<p>When I say the wrong treatment plan, <br \/>I mean in this case&#8211;not taking medication.<\/p>\n<p>Why do I say it like that? Well I say<br \/>it like that because some people with<br \/>these disorders believe that not<br \/>taking medication is the right way<br \/>to treat the disorder.<\/p>\n<p>NOTE<br \/>I am NOT a doctor, therapist, lawyer<br \/>and NOT offering medical or legal advice.<br \/>NOTHING I write should be taken as medical,<br \/>or legal advice.<\/p>\n<p>At the core of incorrect treatment is<br \/>a person not taking medication. I have<br \/>personally seen people who go off their <br \/>medications do all kinds of things that are<br \/>really bad. I have seen it in support <br \/>group meetings. <\/p>\n<p>I have seen it on a college campus.<\/p>\n<p>I have seen it in various towns<br \/>and cities.<\/p>\n<p>You have to be really careful when a person<br \/>is not on medications when they have a serious<br \/>disorder like bipolar disorder. And if you<br \/>have bipolar disorder and you are not taking<br \/>your medications, you are at risk of doing<br \/>something really bad.<\/p>\n<p>In my courses\/systems below, virtually all<br \/>success stories talk about what happened<br \/>when medications were not taken or they<br \/>were not correct.<\/p>\n<p>SUPPORTING AN ADULT WITH BIPOLAR DISORDER?<br \/>Visit:<br \/><a href=\"http:\/\/www.bipolarsupporter.com\/report11\">http:\/\/www.bipolarsupporter.com\/report11<\/a><\/p>\n<p>SUPPORTING A CHILD\/TEEN WITH BIPOLAR DISORDER?<br \/>Visit:<br \/><a href=\"http:\/\/www.bipolarparenting.com\">http:\/\/www.bipolarparenting.com<\/a><\/p>\n<p>HAVE BIPOLAR DISORDER?<br \/>Visit:<br \/><a href=\"http:\/\/www.survivebipolar.net\">http:\/\/www.survivebipolar.net<\/a><\/p>\n<p>The foundation to all success in the interviews<br \/>in the courses\/systems above is taking<br \/>medication. Bipolar medications make life<br \/>better for the person with bipolar disorder<br \/>AND the supporter. Period.<\/p>\n<p>If you are not taking your medications, go to <br \/>the doctor and get back on them.<\/p>\n<p>If you loved one is not taking medications,<br \/>realize he\/she could do something really bad<br \/>and your goal should be to help them get<br \/>back on their medications and feel comfortable<br \/>doing so.<\/p>\n<p>You don&#8217;t know how many people I speak to<br \/>that are supporting loved ones who are not<br \/>taking their medication and I warn them to<br \/>watch out, be careful, etc. They all say,<br \/>&#8220;oh my loved one would never get as bad<br \/>as your mom got.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Then they wind up calling me back in like 6<br \/>to 12 months with a horror story.<\/p>\n<p>I know if you are a bipolar supporter, supporting<br \/>an adult with bipolar disorder, you might be thinking,<br \/>&#8220;yea, Dave, it&#8217;s easy for you to say but it&#8217;s hard<br \/>to get someone into treatment.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>You are right, remember I had the same problem as<br \/>well. <\/p>\n<p>This is why in my supporter course for adults<br \/>I talk about 21 ways to get a loved one into <br \/>treatment with involuntary commitment. <\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.bipolarsupporter.com\/report11\">http:\/\/www.bipolarsupporter.com\/report11<\/a><\/p>\n<p>I had to use some of the strategies myself over the<br \/>years of helping my mom.<\/p>\n<p>I know I will get a ton of hate mail from people<br \/>saying that I push medications on people and<br \/>I am part of a drug company or something like<br \/>this. Or that I own millions of dollars of drug<br \/>stocks and I want more people on medications<br \/>so I make more money with my stocks.<\/p>\n<p>Or people will write me hate mail that I am<br \/>afraid of people with a mental illness because<br \/>my mom has one.<\/p>\n<p>Please allow me to address both forms<br \/>of hate mail I will get.<\/p>\n<p>#1. I am not part of a drug company. I also<br \/>don&#8217;t own millions of dollars of drug stocks<br \/>and I am NOT trying to raise the price of the<br \/>stocks by writing emails like this.<\/p>\n<p>Some might look at what I wrote and think<br \/>it&#8217;s crazy. It&#8217;s not. You would be shocked<br \/>how many people call\/write\/email me that<br \/>they think that I am making money with drug<br \/>stocks that&#8217;s why I talk about medication<br \/>and bipolar disorder.<\/p>\n<p>#2. I am not afraid of people with a mental<br \/>illness. More than 70% of the people who<br \/>work for me in this organization have at<br \/>least one mental illness. One has 7 in addiction<br \/>to being a recovering drug addict and alcoholic.<\/p>\n<p>Is this crazy? NO, this person is stable AND<br \/>no longer drinking and taking drugs. The person<br \/>is a model worker and does great!<\/p>\n<p>Anyway, the people who work for me read what<br \/>I write and are not offended by what I say.<\/p>\n<p>I tell you about medications and bipolar disorder<br \/>so you don&#8217;t have what happen to Jerry happen<br \/>to you OR you don&#8217;t wind up doing something like<br \/>Steven did which I am sure he never would have<br \/>done under normal circumstances if he was on<br \/>his medications.<\/p>\n<p>Now, I know that it is not known if the<br \/>person who killed a bunch of people had<br \/>bipolar disorder, BUT, what is known<br \/>is he was on medication for something.<br \/>That something obviously made him violent.<br \/>Generally that falls into a few mental illnesses.<\/p>\n<p>Please don&#8217;t write about debating what he had<br \/>and let&#8217;s just learn a lesson of the importance<br \/>of medication for bipolar disorder.<\/p>\n<p>One last comment. There is a person who works for<br \/>me named Michele.  She has bipolar disorder. Michele <br \/>sister had bipolar disorder. She created a multi million<br \/>dollar business from scratch. She was a nice<br \/>person. She went off her medications. She told<br \/>everyone in the family she was feeling great.<br \/>Over time she started to get worse. 8 months<br \/>later, one day, she went to the bank, then<br \/>to the grocery store to do some shopping. <\/p>\n<p>Then she went home from the store, grabbed<br \/>a gun and shot herself dead. There was no note.<br \/>She did not &#8220;put her affairs in order.&#8221; There<br \/>was no indication that she was planning it. <br \/>Who goes to the bank and store and then<br \/>shoots themselves?<\/p>\n<p>It was totally a random act because she<br \/>was not on medication.<\/p>\n<p>Please learn from these stories.<\/p>\n<p>Your Friend,<\/p>\n<p>Dave<\/p>\n<p>===>> Great Resources For You <===\n\nGet Your Own Subscription To This Newsletter<br \/>Want your own copy of these daily bipolar<br \/>emails sent to you for F.ree? If so, visit: <br \/><a href=\"http:\/\/www.bipolarcentral.com\/register3\">http:\/\/www.bipolarcentral.com\/register3<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Get More Help On Bipolar Disorder<br \/>Don&#8217;t forget to take a look through the <br \/>different programs I&#8217;ve put together&#8230; each <br \/>one is designed to help you with a different <br \/>area of bipolar disorder whether you have it or<br \/>you are supporting someone with it. <br \/>You can see them all and get the details by visiting:<br \/><a href=\"http:\/\/www.bipolarcentral.com\/catalog.asp\">http:\/\/www.bipolarcentral.com\/catalog.asp<\/a><\/p>\n<p>View Past Daily Bipolar Emails For F.REE<br \/>Check out my F.ree blog with copies of emails <br \/>that I have sent in the past and lots of great <br \/>information for you: <br \/><a href=\"http:\/\/www.bipolarcentral.com\/supporterblog\/\">http:\/\/www.bipolarcentral.com\/supporterblog\/<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Get Audio Information On Bipolar Disorder For F.REE<br \/>Check out my F.ree podcast. 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